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Rhiannon12866

(243,357 posts)
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 11:30 PM Monday

Kamala Harris: I was 'reckless' not to challenge Biden on running in 2024 - Rachel Maddow - MSNBC



Former Vice President Kamala Harris, in an exclusive interview with Rachel Maddow, talks about how she faced the challenge of asserting herself on whether Joe Biden should have been running for reelection in 2024. - Aired on 09/22/2025.
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Kamala Harris: I was 'reckless' not to challenge Biden on running in 2024 - Rachel Maddow - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Monday OP
But she thought it would be seen as yorkster Yesterday #1
not what she said either LyfeTimeDem Yesterday #3
At no point did I say she did not think he was capable yorkster Yesterday #4
It would be seen yorkster Yesterday #5
So did I, twice LyfeTimeDem Yesterday #6
I think that she LyfeTimeDem Yesterday #7
Yes, a primary would have been a terrible yorkster Yesterday #8
NOT WHAT SHE SAID LyfeTimeDem Yesterday #2

yorkster

(3,400 posts)
1. But she thought it would be seen as
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 12:40 AM
Yesterday

"self-interest", no matter how judiciously she handled it.

LyfeTimeDem

(36 posts)
3. not what she said either
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:17 AM
Yesterday

She was talking about the pushing of Biden out.

She said he was perfectly capable of running the country.

yorkster

(3,400 posts)
4. At no point did I say she did not think he was capable
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:36 AM
Yesterday

of running the country. In fact she said the reverse, as you mentioned.

I listened to the interview and she did say something like it would seen as self-serving or in her own self-interest if she
were the one to suggest that Joe not run for a second term.

LyfeTimeDem

(36 posts)
6. So did I, twice
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 11:18 AM
Yesterday

She pointed out at the time things fell apart. Joe was being overworked and his age limitations were not being considered by his staff. I think she meant she should have pointed that out, whether it was him pushing himself too hard (the man was driven after all) or his staff not building in enough time for him to get some needed rest. And that to me was what was "reckless"

LyfeTimeDem

(36 posts)
7. I think that she
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 11:42 AM
Yesterday

pointed out at the time things fell apart for Joe, that he was being overworked and his age limitations were not being considered by his staff. He ultimately contracted Covid just before the debate ...likely because he worked himself so hard with the European trip prior to that and then right into debate prep with no rest in between. I feel that he knew if he begged off because of Covid he would be seen as "afraid to debate Trump" so I think they tried medicating him and hoped for the best. However, unwell Joe was the night of the debate. He answered every question posed to him accurately. He just didnt look well....because he wasn't. Trump was well and rested and he couldn't answer a single one....however, that wasn't held against him!

Then came the piling on....treating Joe like he had one foot in grave and already in a coffin....and no support whatsoever. It was shameful if you ask me.....we should have been able to drag his corpse to the finish line with Trump as the alternative

Then came the problem that far too many questioned if Kamala Harris was ready (still ignoring the fact that Trump was the only alternative). And even Joe Biden understood the calls for a new open primary were folks looking for a way to step over the Black female's body and find a "White man" instead. Biden recognized that and stepped down to prevent that from happening....and that is why he left *salty* as I still am at a few of my former heroes in the Party.


But I think what VP Kamala Harris meant, was that she should have pointed out, that Biden needed more rest whether it was him pushing himself too hard (the man was driven after all) or his staff not building in enough time for him to get some needed rest. And that to me was what was "reckless"

yorkster

(3,400 posts)
8. Yes, a primary would have been a terrible
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 12:11 PM
Yesterday

Idea, and the pile on was awful. What you have written is well thought out. Would like to respond in more detail, but have boring stuff I have to get done today.

I'm going to buy her book. I miss her presence and her input.

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