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'Murder on the high seas': Outrage after Trump admin vows to 'blow up' more boats - All In - MSNBC



“This was murder on the high seas. The United States military carried out an illegal order,” says national security reporter Spencer Ackerman on the Trump Pentagon’s strike that killed 11 people on a boat from Venezuela. - Aired on 09/04/2025.
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Military.com
https://www.military.com › daily-news › 2024 › 07 › 12 › what-happens-if-president-issues-potentially-illegal-order-military.html
What Happens if the President Issues a Potentially Illegal Order to the ...
Jul 12, 2024Military.com reached out to the civilian and military leaders of every uniformed branch of service with a trio of direct questions: If a potentially unlawful order is received from the White House ...


militarydefense.com
https://www.militarydefense.com › military-personnel-must-know-the-limits-of-lawful-orders
Orders Under Fire: When Following Command Becomes a Legal Risk in Today ...
May 27, 2025When Obedience Becomes a Crime: The Military Duty to Disobey Unlawful Orders Obedience in Uniform Has Limits Military personnel are bound by duty, discipline, and the chain of command. But that duty does not extend to illegal actions. Under both U.S. military law and international standards, service members are legally required to refuse unlawful orders—a point often overlooked in public ...


militaryandveteranslaw.com
https://www.militaryandveteranslaw.com › blog › 2024 › 02 › lawful-and-unlawful-orders-can-you-tell-the-difference
Lawful and unlawful orders: Can you tell the difference?
Feb 1, 2024The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), however, specifies that service members are required to obey "the lawful orders of his/her superior." So what if you believe that an order you've been given is unlawful? First, it's important to recognize whether the order is actually unlawful or simply one with which you disagree.


militaryjusticecenter.com
https://www.militaryjusticecenter.com › blog › 2022 › 03 › can-you-recognize-an-unlawful-order
Can you recognize an unlawful order? - The Military Justice Center
The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) specified that they are required to obey "the lawful orders of his/her superior." The case of the My Lai massacre What about unlawful orders? Sometimes an unlawful order is clearly that. Perhaps one of the best-known examples occurred during the Vietnam War in what was known as the My Lai massacre.


FindLaw
https://www.findlaw.com › legalblogs › law-and-life › what-is-a-military-duty-to-disobey
What Is a Military 'Duty to Disobey'? - FindLaw
So, can a person in the military simply refuse to follow an order if they don't like it? The answer is yes — if they consider the order itself to be illegal or

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