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Tadpole Raisin

(1,889 posts)
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 06:44 AM Jul 6

OBBBA and Medicare/Social Security

I wanted to put this into the MC and SSA heading after yesterday’s general discussion for those who missed it. Even though some people clarified the OBBBA impact on the SS trust fund via the senior tax deduction, I thought it should be here.

Yesterday’s post: Thanks DOC!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220460843


https://govfacts.org/explainer/how-the-one-big-beautiful-bill-impacts-social-security/

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The CRFB’s analysis indicates that because the OBBBA hastens the insolvency date, the automatic cut that would occur in 2032 would be deeper than previously projected. Beneficiaries would face an across-the-board cut of approximately 24%. This is significantly larger than the 19% cut projected under prior law.

For a retiree receiving the average monthly benefit of $1,976 in 2025, a 24% reduction would amount to a sudden and permanent loss of about $474 per month, lowering their monthly payment to just $1,502.

This creates a direct and damaging feedback loop: a short-term, targeted tax cut for some current retirees is financed in a way that guarantees a deeper, permanent benefit cut for all future retirees, including those who received the initial tax break. A senior who is 70 years old in 2025 and benefits from the tax deduction will, upon turning 77 in 2032, be subject to the very 24% benefit cut that their own tax break helped accelerate.


The OBBBA not only ignores this advice but actively moves in the opposite direction, using a partisan budget process to weaken a dedicated funding stream in service of tax cuts. This reveals a fundamental shift in legislative priorities, prioritizing short-term tax reduction over the long-term stability of America’s primary social insurance program.

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Given all the changes the Felon is making and the domino affects mentioned in the article along with the risk of various economic shocks due to tariffs, significant cuts to the federal workforce including FEMA, weather forcasting, and the slashing of IGs who investigate fraud, this is a very significant issue.

I also hate that SSA was used to send a political email misleading beneficiaries. I’m sure it’s illegal but who is going to stop him?

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markodochartaigh

(3,372 posts)
1. This isn't part of the Billionaire Bonanza Bill,
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 07:52 AM
Jul 6

but one more way that Trump's policies are weakening Social Security that I haven't heard mentioned is that the money that undocumented workers were paying into the system that they would never be eligible for benefits on is less now. All those workers being deported who were paying into Social Security and yet would never receive benefits strengthened the system disproportionately.

Tadpole Raisin

(1,889 posts)
2. Yes!! Excellent point, and because of the lie that immigrants were taking
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:04 AM
Jul 6

American jobs, the loss of those people who worked their asses off will not be replaced by Americans.

We lose their tax contributions in all categories, and small businesses won’t be able to service the public and may go under.

And since farmers and grocery stores benefit from programs like SNAP, they will suffer as these safety nets are cut.

The economy truly grows from the bottom up. Cut the legs out from under it and it’s like a house built on toothpicks.

I hope we can reverse this at the midterms even as I recognize the hurdles to getting there.

Farmer-Rick

(11,875 posts)
3. If Americans want the Social Security or Medicare benefits they paid for
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:21 AM
Jul 6

They have to stop voting for the GOP.

Tadpole Raisin

(1,889 posts)
6. And they are shooting themselves in the foot since taxes on benefits do go back to the trust fund.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:33 AM
Jul 6

From the article:

The Trust Fund Connection

Since bipartisan reform in 1983, the Social Security system has been supported by a dedicated revenue stream generated from federal income taxation of benefits. This isn’t general revenue that can be used for any government purpose. By law, these tax revenues are deposited directly into the Social Security Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) and Disability Insurance (DI) trust funds, as well as the Medicare Hospital Insurance (HI) trust fund.

This structure was deliberately created to help shore up the programs’ finances as the American population aged. Under the law prior to OBBBA, taxation of benefits was projected to contribute approximately $100 billion to the trust funds in 2025, growing to over $140 billion by 2027.

Accelerating Insolvency

The OBBBA’s new tax deduction for seniors directly reduces this critical revenue stream. By increasing the deduction for millions of older Americans, the law decreases the amount of Social Security benefits subject to taxation.

The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB) estimates that the “senior bonus” and other tax changes in the bill will lower revenue collected from benefit taxation by approximately $30 billion per year.

doc03

(38,147 posts)
5. Thanks for posting tadpole, excellent article. It explains the effects on SS
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:26 AM
Jul 6

much better than I could.


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