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Judi Lynn

(163,594 posts)
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 07:49 AM Wednesday

Runes found in Canadian wilderness baffle archaeologists

'Why was it carved here? Why this text? There are no answers.'
By Andrew Paul

Published Jun 17, 2025 11:53 AM EDT



The symbols can be traced back to Futhark, the oldest known runic alphabet. Credit: Ryan Primrose / Ontario Center for Archeological Education

Archaeologists remain baffled by a surprising, seemingly ahistorical find located deep in the Canadian wilderness. But after years of research, analysis, and historical corroboration, an interdisciplinary team has finally made their findings available to the public. Tucked away in a forest approximately 465 miles northwest of Ottawa, a massive slab of bedrock features a hand-etched rendition of the full Lord’s Prayer. But the religious text isn’t inscribed in French or English—it’s composed of over 250 symbols from the oldest known runic alphabet.

The perplexing discovery happened completely by chance, according to the CBC. Hidden for centuries, the stone became exposed only after a tree fell near the town of Wawa, not far from Lake Superior. Closer inspection showed that someone had etched 255 runes into a roughly 4 by 5 foot section of the slab. Additionally, they took time to add a detailed illustration of a boat, an additional 16 runic signs, and 14 X markings.

Photos of the site soon wound up in front of Ryan Primrose, president of the Ontario Center for Archaeological Education, who was immediately stunned by the images.

“It’s certainly among the least expected discoveries of my career. It’s absolutely fascinating,” he told CBC.



It took years of planning and cooperation to analyze the mysterious stone inscription. Ryan Primrose / OCAE

Futhark runes
However, Primrose didn’t want anyone jumping to conclusions about the inscription. While it’s true that Vikings explored portions of present-day Canada thousands of years ago, he doubted they were responsible for the mystery message.

More:
https://www.popsci.com/science/runes-canada-stone/

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Runes found in Canadian wilderness baffle archaeologists (Original Post) Judi Lynn Wednesday OP
Wow BoRaGard Wednesday #1
Cool! markbark Wednesday #2
Don't you just love a good quest?! wolfie001 Wednesday #6
Run away! Run away! Ray Bruns Wednesday #11
Will never be old, nor dated, nor not funny! wolfie001 Wednesday #18
Thanks, Judi Lynn UpInArms Wednesday #3
She sure does! wolfie001 Wednesday #5
Fascinating! SheltieLover Wednesday #4
"In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy spike jones Wednesday #7
i saw what you did there AllaN01Bear Wednesday #8
"" AllaN01Bear Wednesday #9
KNR and thank you for this fascinating find. niyad Wednesday #10
Aliens! Ray Bruns Wednesday #12
lol wolfie001 Wednesday #19
It's probably true that Vikings had nothing to do with it since defacto7 Wednesday #13
The oldest known example of fake news? n/t SpankMe Wednesday #14
Follow the link Picaro Wednesday #15
Hoaxters? Attilatheblond Wednesday #17
chisel marks reveal metals kiri Wednesday #20
There are some runes on rocks not far from where I live, borderlands with Mexico, not far from Sea of Cortez* Attilatheblond Wednesday #16
I've been debating the better name. After all Cortez was a conquistador LT Barclay Wednesday #22
Finally hard evidence of St. Brendan the navigator? LT Barclay Wednesday #21
Very interesting wendyb-NC Wednesday #23
New reporting today concludes they are probably of Swedish origin wishstar Wednesday #24

markbark

(1,610 posts)
2. Cool!
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 08:11 AM
Wednesday

Translated it says "He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the Holy Grail in the Castle of Aaarrrrggh"

wolfie001

(5,378 posts)
18. Will never be old, nor dated, nor not funny!
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:09 PM
Wednesday

Same with 'Life of Brian'! Two absolute classics! Cheers

spike jones

(1,895 posts)
7. "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 09:06 AM
Wednesday

smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort.”

wolfie001

(5,378 posts)
19. lol
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:16 PM
Wednesday

So many of these quacks selling their 15-ft high pile of BS. Graham Hancock and Joe Rogan teamed up to serve their white supremacy theories to gullible ignoramuses.

defacto7

(14,087 posts)
13. It's probably true that Vikings had nothing to do with it since
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 10:12 AM
Wednesday

they had no written language, but it's also curious that Vikings were mentioned as possibly visiting present-day Canada thousands of years ago. Vikings ventured west and south around 900 CE give or take a hundred years so definitely not thousands of years. Any visitations thousands of years ago would have been before Vikings even existed in the Scandinavian region.

It obviously is from a much later time planted by a religious scholar/missionary. I doubt that would be difficult to figure out. The article goes on to explain that it's only a couple centuries old. I'm not sure why the writer would expand absurd ideas from the beginning except to get attention. Myth seems more interesting than facts to many people, I guess.

I do appreciate the fact that it exists, though.

Picaro

(2,053 posts)
15. Follow the link
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 10:40 AM
Wednesday

The full article reveals the potential timeline and that The Lord’s Prayer written in Futhark runes was actually published in 1611. This was republished in the 19th century.

Whoever did this was apparently working from a document.

Still very strange and there is no answer as to why do this.

kiri

(945 posts)
20. chisel marks reveal metals
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:25 PM
Wednesday

When one chisels into rock, tiny bits of the chisel get deposited onto the 'walls'/sides of. the cavity. The chisel may be made of bronze (copper and tin), iron, rarely another stone. This is why chisels wear out. Modern techniques can identify just a few atoms, even to recognize impurities in the bronze (lead, antimony,. .. )

Until the chisel marks are fully identified as to elemental composition, we suspect hoax. (Hoaxers never get the Cu 63/65 ratio right.)

Attilatheblond

(6,402 posts)
16. There are some runes on rocks not far from where I live, borderlands with Mexico, not far from Sea of Cortez*
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 11:26 AM
Wednesday

But they have been declared a hoax. Maybe not so hoaxy?

*AKA as Gulf of California by some gringos.

wishstar

(5,717 posts)
24. New reporting today concludes they are probably of Swedish origin
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 04:08 PM
Wednesday
https://archaeology.org/news/2025/06/18/mystery-of-strange-canadian-rock-carvings-solved/

A, CANADA—For the past seven years, archaeologist Ryan Primrose, director of the Ontario Centre for Archaeological Education, has studied mysterious symbols carved into the bedrock deep in an Ontario forest. The rock, which features 255 strange markings as well as the image of a boat, was unlike anything that had ever been found before in the region. CBC reports that he has finally solved the riddle with help from Swedish researcher Henrik Williams. The pair determined that the bizarre symbols were actually Nordic runes that spell out a 1611 version of The Lord’s Prayer in Swedish. Their research revealed that during the nineteenth century, Canada’s Hudson Bay Company sometimes hired Swedish workers to man wilderness trading posts, including the Michipicoten post, which was not too far from where the carvings were discovered. It is likely that the site was used for Swedish religious gatherings, but the researchers still don’t know exactly why someone would have created the time-consuming and labor-intensive inscription. “Anybody has to start wondering 'Why on Earth did they carve it here and why did they choose that text?' And there's no answers,” said Primrose. “
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