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GreenWave

(11,084 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 06:21 AM Thursday

Scientists hail 'strongest evidence' so far for life beyond our solar system

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/apr/17/scientists-hail-strongest-evidence-so-far-for-life-beyond-our-solar-system?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

A giant planet 124 light years from Earth has yielded the strongest evidence yet that extraterrestrial life may be thriving beyond our solar system, astronomers claim.

Observations by the James Webb space telescope of a planet called K2-18 b appear to reveal the chemical fingerprints of two compounds that, on Earth, are only known to be produced by life.

Detection of the chemicals, dimethyl sulfide (DMS) and dimethyl disulfide (DMDS) would not amount to proof of alien biological activity, but could bring the answer to the question of whether we are alone in the universe much closer.

“This is the strongest evidence to date for a biological activity beyond the solar system,” said Prof Nikku Madhusudhan, an astrophysicist at the University of Cambridge who led the observations. “We are very cautious. We have to question ourselves both on whether the signal is real and what it means.”
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Scientists hail 'strongest evidence' so far for life beyond our solar system (Original Post) GreenWave Thursday OP
So cool. Joinfortmill Thursday #1
Sorry but dimethyl sulfide has been detected in interstellar space. NNadir Thursday #2
The building blocks for life are everywhere science has looked Warpy Thursday #3
The context statements in the article are not clear to say the least. Layzeebeaver Friday #4

NNadir

(35,627 posts)
2. Sorry but dimethyl sulfide has been detected in interstellar space.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:28 AM
Thursday

Cf. Sanz-Novo et al. The Astrophysical Journal Letters 980:L37 2025.

Thus it is clear and unsurprising that it can clearly have a abiotic origin.

It's very weak evidence, if it's evidence at all.

Warpy

(113,237 posts)
3. The building blocks for life are everywhere science has looked
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 05:54 PM
Thursday

fromcomet tails to interstellar dust and gas. Having us be alone in the immensity of even the small part of the universe we can percive beggars the imagination.

The problem is that any life not evolving on Earth would most likely be unrecognizable to us as such, not even if it tapped us on the shoulder and said its equivalent of "howdy."

Will we ever know for sure? Not unless there's something recognizable on other planets or moons in our own system. We have a ghost of a chance of seeing it as alive.

My guess still says it's all alive. Nothing else makes a lot of sense.

Layzeebeaver

(1,924 posts)
4. The context statements in the article are not clear to say the least.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 05:54 AM
Friday

In the article it states, "K2-18 b, which sits in the Leo constellation, is nearly nine times as massive as the Earth and 2.6 times as large and orbits in the habitable zone of its star, a cool red dwarf less than half the size of the sun."

This leaves much to the imagination...

Where in reality (when you do a bit of searching and thinking...)

1) K2-18 b is an exoplanet in the Leo constellation. It has a radius about 2.6 times that of Earth. It's roughly 9 times its mass.

2) This places it in the sub-Neptune category — likely with a thick atmosphere and not a rocky surface. Maybe a "watery" surface - but not necessarily water.

It orbits within the habitable zone of its host star (a cool red dwarf) that is less than half the size of the Sun.

While this zone could support liquid water under the right conditions, K2-18 b should not be considered "Earth-like".

All that said, It's still really cool that we can detect this data. I like it.

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