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Mon Sep 8, 2025, 06:07 PM Sep 8

Cynthia Ozick: A New York Jewish Life of Letters

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Although she attends an Orthodox synagogue, Ms. Ozick prefers to describe herself as “just generically Jewish.” If there’s a theme that dominates her oeuvre, it’s Jewishness, particularly Jewish life in America, which has of late infected her with sorrow. Jewishness, she says, is “co-extensive, or coterminous, with American life. You couldn’t pull Jews and America apart. Until now.” She means the period since Oct. 7, 2023.

Seated at her dining table, Ms. Ozick trembles as she speaks of “the mystery of that day in October.” On the very morrow, “it was as if, in this country and everywhere in the world, permission was suddenly given.” She means permission for antisemitism. Her consternation is “profound,” she says: “How could an event like that, a terrible massacre so minutely recorded by the perps, open these permissive floodgates?”

The question torments her. “It’s a greater puzzle than antisemitism itself. The whole world was standing there, suppressing antisemitism, and when Oct. 7 happened, it said, ‘Oh, look. It happened. So we can do it, too.’ ” Her last published commentary, which appeared on these pages, addressed these events. Titled “Antisemitism and the Politics of the Chant,” it asked whether we’ve “come to the end of a Golden Age” in America, especially for its Jewish citizens. She fears we have. The massacre gave a green light for “Jew-hate,” she says. “But for some exceptions, there was no sympathy. It was as if this country changed overnight.

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After Oct. 7, she confronted a question about the country to which her Jewish parents fled from Russia, and where they found great happiness in their lives as Americans. “Is it now the beginning, little by little, of the disintegration of what we’ve come to call the Judeo-Christian in America. Is the legacy of the Founding Fathers coming to an end?” (After that question, she apologizes for using a “cliché.”)

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Cynthia Ozick: A New York Jewish Life of Letters (Original Post) question everything Sep 8 OP
Please remember that your allies see what is happening and stand with you. lapucelle Sep 8 #1
We are no longer Jewish Americans or American Jews, we are nothing more than Jews who live in America. Behind the Aegis Sep 8 #2
And it is clear that anti-Zionism is antisemitism. Jews were attacked on campuses, on their way to synagogues question everything Sep 8 #3
I have some random thoughts. madaboutharry Sep 9 #4
So true. Behind the Aegis Sep 9 #5
Translation: madaboutharry Sep 10 #6

lapucelle

(20,748 posts)
1. Please remember that your allies see what is happening and stand with you.
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 07:19 PM
Sep 8


A Time for Choosing

Pure ice-cold antisemitism is guiding a lot of what you're reading and seeing in the last week. It's a crude hatred of Jews for being Jews, and it is as old as the hills.

Tom Watson
Oct 14, 2023

When I was a young reporter in the Bronx, I often interviewed survivors of The Shoah - the Holocaust perpetrated by Nazi Germany, an ordered and relentless human extermination program that shipped Jews of all ages to vast death camps, where they were gassed or otherwise murdered. The men and women I interviewed had been mostly children or young adults at the time (this was the late 80s and early 90s) and the camp survivors among them bore Nazi tattoos on their wrists. Numbers, like tags on livestock.

These people emigrated to the United States and made their way to the northwest Bronx. Some were observant Jews of one denomination or another; many were not. I interviewed them in either late middle age or their dotages, and they’d all mostly had full lives - teachers, business people, professionals, involved community members. I was amazed at how soft-spoken and matter of fact these interviews were. The Kristallnacht happened, and then my neighbors turned me in, and then my entire family died, and then I came to America and went to school and got married. And so on. There was an underlying intensity like a large rubber band whose vibration you could sometimes feel when you asked a difficult question but always sensed was there. Today, they’d call that emotional trauma. But at that time, I sensed both a willingness to discuss the past tangled tightly with the human desire to move forward. Which I could understand: the people I was interviewing had (by luck or intervention) received a second chance that six million did not.

And of course, the overall abiding theme of all of these interviews (indeed the special annual Holocaust Remembrance issue of The Riverdale Press in those days) was Never Again.

Well, we have arrived at Again...

https://theliberaltomwatson.substack.com/p/a-time-for-choosing

Behind the Aegis

(55,656 posts)
2. We are no longer Jewish Americans or American Jews, we are nothing more than Jews who live in America.
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 07:54 PM
Sep 8

October 7th, 2023, gave license to all anti-Semites, especially those on the left, to have a field day. It is funny how some blame Israel/Netanyahu for the increase in anti-Semitism, when they secretly are relieved because know they can operate in the open. Their "kitchen table" anti-Semitism no longer is relegated to hushed whispers in the house but now can be shouted on the streets and in once respected newspapers, which have now turned to "yellow journalism" when Israel or Jews are involved.

Anti-Semitism is mocked, ridiculed, and redefined to exclude Jews, and it is only one of the many words which have been redefined in order to cast aspersions on Israel, Zionism, and Jews. We are spoken over and around, at the same time we are instructed to "speak out". If they don't like what we have to say we are ignored, at best, and vilified, at worst.

We are screamed at as a society to be "woke" and understand diversity, but when it comes to Jews, the same people balk, if not punch down with gusto. Within hours of October 7th, it was called "genocide" (against the Palestinians), anti-Israel protests sprang up all over the world, almost as quick as the actual October 7th attack, the attacks were called "justifiable", the Hamas terrorists were PRAISED as brave and lauded as "Mandela-like." The violence against Israeli women, including rape, was mocked and they were called liars. Attacks against Jews worldwide were blamed, not on the anti-Semitic perpetrators, but on Israel! "Whataboutism" became a favorite pastime for many. We were and continue to be inundated with comments, stories, and "truths" from people who couldn't pick out Israel on a map, and they act as if they understand the complicated history of the area and situation because they read something on Instagram or X or some random website no one has ever heard of. They speak with underserved expertise because they see themselves as proud graduates with a degree in Ahistorical Jewish and Middle Eastern Studies from TikTok University.

The whole world was standing there, suppressing antisemitism, and when Oct. 7 happened, it said, ‘Oh, look. It happened. So we can do it, too.’ ”


A terrorist attack just happened in Israel several hours ago. Already, they are those defending it, excusing it, and making light of it. Any attack on Israel and/or Jews always has a chorus that immediately sings out: YOU DESERVED IT!

Anti-Semitism, though it has changed in guise depending on the need of the current society, is an example of a hate that permeates at all levels of society and, given the opportunity, raises its head and gets to work destroying Jews and Jewish lives.

question everything

(51,022 posts)
3. And it is clear that anti-Zionism is antisemitism. Jews were attacked on campuses, on their way to synagogues
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 08:57 PM
Sep 8

in Kosher restaurants. They were not asked whether they were Zionists; being a Jew was enough.

And for all the Jews who claim from the rooftops that they are anti Zionism (my local paper is full of letters), the “Jews for Palestine” do they really think that if a mob will physically come at them that claiming that they are anti Zionism will spare them?

madaboutharry

(42,008 posts)
4. I have some random thoughts.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:44 AM
Sep 9

First, the self-loathing Jew is not a stereotype. These people have existed throughout the millennia. Some of them are written about in the Torah.

Jew hate molds itself to fit the times. Throughout history forms of Jew hate reflected the culture and society persecuted Jews were living in. In the present, Jews are hated not only for being infidels and standing in the way of a Caliphate, but also for where he or she falls on the oppressed/oppressor scale recited ad nauseam by anti-democracy academics. (The Marxist inspired fringe has always hated Israel and Jews for being capitalists, but that’s a discussion for another day.)

And then there is my favorite quote from Mark Twain: “History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.”

Behind the Aegis

(55,656 posts)
5. So true.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:31 PM
Sep 9

From Kapos and Judenratts to the modern Court Jew, we have our share of traitors, quislings, and do-gooders led astray. Apparently, the "important", "Jewish Voices for Peace" was too milquetoast for some Jews, so they have now formed, The Anti-Zionist Jewish Student Front.

After careful consideration, we have disaffiliated from Jewish Voice for Peace and formed a new national organization— the Anti-Zionist Jewish Student Front. We affirm our accountability to the Popular University and a political line of resistance. We work to dismantle Zionism in its entirety by confronting Zionist institutions on campus, to struggle for divestment, and to pursue the criminalization of Zionism as a white supremacist weapon of war.

In one month, we mark two years of the most horrific expansion of the Zionist project. In one month, we also mark two years of the strongest sustained resistance by the might of Palestinian journalists, doctors, men, women, and children, refusing to abandon national liberation and continuously defying vicious onslaught, backed by American dollars.

On campuses across the world, the student intifada is at the forefront of escalating demands for divestment. Our classrooms have become a theater for the battle against imperialism and state repression, because there is nothing university profiteers and state actors fear more than a politicized, organized student mass.

For years anti-Zionist Jews have focused on building “appropriate” spaces to “unlearn Zionism” and shouting that anti-Zionism is not antisemitism. While these tactics certainly have a place in the movement at large, now is the time to reassess the effectiveness of our solidarity in the student intifada. We must question, as anti-Zionist Jews living safely in the heart of Western empire that has sustained 77 years of occupation, has it been enough? Specifically in the student sphere, is our political vehicle within a non-profit model effective?

Rejecting Zionism and upholding Palestinians’ right to return, remain, and resist are central to opposing fascist escalation and the consolidation of power in the US and across the world. As such, we follow Gaza as our compass, unconditionally.

Logo translation:
Center in Yiddish: “L’chaim Intifada”
Top/Bottom in Arabic: “Where there is oppression, may there thrive resistance.”


Pathetic!

madaboutharry

(42,008 posts)
6. Translation:
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:53 AM
Sep 10

“We are Marxists who hate The West and want to seek the destruction of Western Civilization. Our agenda is not actually about the Middle East. We have decided that scapegoating Israel is a great vehicle for bringing attention to ourselves. We also think that a handful of token self-loathing Jews in our organization will give us cover from accusations of antisemitism.”

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