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Ponietz

(4,568 posts)
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 10:58 AM Wednesday

I didn't think World Cup management and officiating would be "fair", but here we go in the first round already

Verdict: Messi's challenge was unnecessary and he was fortunate that the outcome was not a red card.

When challenging from behind with studs-on-calf contact and a level of force, the outcome should be a red card.

Whether Messi had no intent to foul in this manner is irrelevant; intent is not a consideration in law, and the facts of any contact should be the defining factor.

Messi was lucky as, in my opinion, this was a red card offense. It happened with the score at 1-0 and could have had a big impact on the game. It would have also impacted Messi's ability to play the rest of the World Cup group games, as a one-match ban could have occurred.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/49027532/world-cup-2026-var-review-red-card-penalty-handball-goal-line-technology

Also, Iran should be playing in Mexico or Canada. Forcing their commute to and from the US on the same day they play is onerous and adds more than a few hours of stress filled travel. Their team should be treated like any other as long as they’re competing.

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I didn't think World Cup management and officiating would be "fair", but here we go in the first round already (Original Post) Ponietz Wednesday OP
Not to be "that guy", but intent is very much a consideration in law. Climate Crusader Wednesday #1
I think it was a typo -- "not a consideration in the law" defining a red card offense Ponietz Wednesday #2
Hope we do Traildogbob Wednesday #3
On Twitter last night awesomerwb1 Wednesday #4
Uruguay wasn't cleared to enter the US until Sunday night Ponietz Wednesday #5
No different than sports in the US sarisataka Wednesday #6
It's more detestable privilege and entitlement Ponietz Wednesday #7
The Messi foul should have been Yellow. Old Crank Wednesday #8

Climate Crusader

(181 posts)
1. Not to be "that guy", but intent is very much a consideration in law.
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 11:01 AM
Wednesday

Maybe not on a futbol pitch, but very much so in the courtroom.

Ponietz

(4,568 posts)
2. I think it was a typo -- "not a consideration in the law" defining a red card offense
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 11:06 AM
Wednesday

Of course, you are correct otherwise.

Traildogbob

(13,294 posts)
3. Hope we do
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 11:10 AM
Wednesday

Not Have NBA level of officiating and favoritism towards stars like Wamby got. 😡

awesomerwb1

(5,172 posts)
4. On Twitter last night
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 11:47 AM
Wednesday

there were many, many people voicing their displeasure at FIFA's double standards. The previous world cup in Qatar was rigged (many people believe) for either of the PSG boys to win the world cup. PSG are the French club team that is owned by the Qataris for which Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar played at the time.

99.9999% of the players commit that foul like Messi did, and it's an automatic yellow card reviewable by VAR for a potential red card. He got neither.

Ponietz

(4,568 posts)
5. Uruguay wasn't cleared to enter the US until Sunday night
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 02:29 PM
Wednesday

If only they’d used the official FIFA airline, and if only their opponent the next day weren’t Bonesaw’s squad.

sarisataka

(22,980 posts)
6. No different than sports in the US
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 02:30 PM
Wednesday

star players can get away with things most players would be penalized for without hesitation.

Conversely ticky-tack fouls against them get called far more often.

Old Crank

(7,407 posts)
8. The Messi foul should have been Yellow.
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 03:29 PM
Wednesday

I am following a ref channel, having been one for a couple of decades...

The person going over Messi's foul quoted the laws and the reasons it wouldn't be a red. But should have been a yellow.

That being said, ifn matches at the levels I officiated it would have been red.

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