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Is this the lowest draft pic to win NFL MVP (Original Post) Tribetime Aug 31 OP
Bart Starr was a 17th round draft choice. rsdsharp Aug 31 #1
Star was the pic 200...Sipe 330 Tribetime Aug 31 #2
Wasn't The League 3/8ths The Size, Then? ProfessorGAC Monday #4
Yeah there was less teams so i'm assuming the players were better but Tribetime Monday #5
I Hadn't Even Thought About... ProfessorGAC Monday #6
Pick number probably a better metric than round JT45242 Aug 31 #3

Tribetime

(6,817 posts)
2. Star was the pic 200...Sipe 330
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 08:43 PM
Aug 31

So I guess it's how you look at it.But kurt warner probably wins the debate...I honestly did not know that about Starr

ProfessorGAC

(74,267 posts)
4. Wasn't The League 3/8ths The Size, Then?
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 01:45 PM
Monday

Not sure the raw number accurately represents this situation.

Tribetime

(6,817 posts)
5. Yeah there was less teams so i'm assuming the players were better but
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 07:25 PM
Monday

Yes, I think the amount of teams was far less back than and they were mostly just white players. So, just like Major League Baseball in the 40s and 50s, I think the level of both leagues is much better now than what it used to be.

ProfessorGAC

(74,267 posts)
6. I Hadn't Even Thought About...
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 07:40 PM
Monday

...the racial aspect, but you're right.
By the mid 60s, that was fading fast. The Bears drafted Gayle Sayers in '65. I was about 9 at the time and within a season he was everyone's favorite Bear.

JT45242

(3,601 posts)
3. Pick number probably a better metric than round
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 09:10 PM
Aug 31

The expansion to 32 teams plus free agent compensation picks is a big deal.

The pre merger days ( 1970) had only 16 teams so the beginning of round 4 today after compensation picks would be the equivalent of round 7 in 1969.

Kurt warner as undrafted free agent should be the biggest or latest draft pick. Mainly because it wasn't like he was signed immediately after the draft like a round 8 first pick.

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