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brush

(61,033 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:50 PM Sep 10

DU fiction writers/readers: Explain when best to introduce a McGuffin v a Deus ex machina.

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DU fiction writers/readers: Explain when best to introduce a McGuffin v a Deus ex machina. (Original Post) brush Sep 10 OP
Wouldn't McG have to come early in the plot? Irish_Dem Sep 10 #1
Ok, so the McG has to come first, no DEM early? brush Sep 10 #2
DEM is the resolution of the plot conflict? Irish_Dem Sep 10 #3
Yes, DEM seems to suggest writer's inability to resolve the ending. brush Sep 10 #4
So uses a gimmick. Irish_Dem Sep 10 #5
She pointed at the McGuffin and said "Look, there's a McGuffin." Orrex Sep 10 #6
In other words, ditch the obvious gimmicks. brush Sep 11 #9
Well, I was mostly making fun of my own writing Orrex Sep 11 #10
I think you should write the story you want to write. Irish_Dem Sep 11 #7
Good advice. Thank you. brush Sep 11 #8

Irish_Dem

(75,184 posts)
1. Wouldn't McG have to come early in the plot?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:54 PM
Sep 10

It serves no other purpose but gives meaning and direction to the plot.

And the DEM comes later to add interest and a twist.

Irish_Dem

(75,184 posts)
3. DEM is the resolution of the plot conflict?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:04 PM
Sep 10

So it would come later.

Be careful with it.
Some say it is lazy writing.

Orrex

(66,055 posts)
6. She pointed at the McGuffin and said "Look, there's a McGuffin."
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:32 PM
Sep 10

"Biggest McGuffin I ever saw," he agreed.

Then they fired up their Deus ex Machina and resolved the entire plot.

Orrex

(66,055 posts)
10. Well, I was mostly making fun of my own writing
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 03:07 PM
Sep 11

Even an obvious gimmick used well is a worthy plot device, so don’t give my admonition more weight than it merits.

Irish_Dem

(75,184 posts)
7. I think you should write the story you want to write.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 05:40 AM
Sep 11

If you are creative, and a good writer, write the story in your head, the way you want to write it.
Don't get bogged down in technique or what other people think you should do.

You are the artist, create your story.

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