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Related: About this forumA career soldier discusses the M17
Premiered Aug 11, 2025
This video discusses the good, the bad, and the ugly of the M17 pistol, the US Armys version of the SIG P320. Given all of the controversies, some of which have turned deadly, it is high time that we take a closer look at the safety and efficacy of the Armys new sidearm.
National Guard in DC to carry M17 pistols, conduct law enforcement duties
ByAnne Flaherty
August 22, 2025, 8:30 PM
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A career soldier discusses the M17 (Original Post)
struggle4progress
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msongs
(72,188 posts)1. sounds like the perfect gun to arrest unarmed busboys and roofers nt
struggle4progress
(124,163 posts)3. Somebody's gonna get shot by accident
struggle4progress
(124,163 posts)2. SIG's Catastrophic Issues
Frontsite
Jul 30, 2025
There have been many issues reported over the last year or so, but now that an Airmen was killed with a SIG P320 by just putting it on the table, there are questions being asked and the Military as halted all training with the pistol, and the contract with SIG. What is the issue? Nobody knows at the moment, but in this video we will discuss it, and talk about some options you have
TommyT139
(1,763 posts)4. ICE stopped using them.
https://www.thetrace.org/2025/07/sig-sauer-p320-pistol-safety-ice-ban/
Federal Agencies Reject SIG Sauer P320 Amid Growing Safety Concerns
ICE and the U.S. Air Force Global Strike Command are the latest to stop using the popular pistol, following law enforcement agencies across the country.
By Aaron Mendelson and Champe Barton Jul 24, 2025
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Federal Agencies Reject SIG Sauer P320 Amid Growing Safety Concerns
ICE and the U.S. Air Force Global Strike Command are the latest to stop using the popular pistol, following law enforcement agencies across the country.
By Aaron Mendelson and Champe Barton Jul 24, 2025
Both Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the U.S. Air Force Global Strike Command have halted use of the SIG Sauer P320 pistol amid widespread concerns about the guns safety, according to July memos authenticated by The Trace.
ICE banned officers from carrying the gun in a July 9 memo, which directed the agencys firearms division to purchase a replacement firearm as soon as practicable.
The memo from Deputy Director Madison Sheahan ordered the agency to provide a plan within 10 calendar days to supply Glock pistols to all authorized officers moving forward. The portion of the memo reviewed by The Trace does not explain why the change was being made.
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On July 21, the U.S. Air Force Global Strike Command, which oversees Americas arsenal of long-range nuclear bombers, announced that it was placing the weapon on indefinite pause after the pistol was involved in the death of an airman.
The Mouth
(3,382 posts)5. Now our idiots in California are banning Glocks :-(