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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts) Mon May 2, 2016, 08:45 PM May 2016

Social Security releases proposed rule to strip gun rights from some beneficiaries

The Social Security Administration has released the details of how it proposes to identify some recipients for bans on possessing and acquiring firearms.

First broached last July in what the National Rifle Association is calling the “largest gun grab in American history,” President Obama called on the SSA in January to advance a rulemaking process by which certain individuals receiving benefits would be reported to the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System, the database Federal Firearms Licensees use to determine whether a prospective buyer is eligible to buy firearms and/or explosives. This would effectively make them a prohibited firearms possessor.

Acting Commissioner Carolyn W. Colvin signed the proposed rule, set to be posted to the Federal Register, on April 28.

Included in the 41-page document is the five-step qualification process that will be used to first identify and then report selected Title II and Title XVI beneficiaries to the Department of Justice.

http://www.guns.com/2016/05/02/social-security-releases-proposed-rule-to-strip-gun-rights-from-some-beneficiaries/

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Social Security releases proposed rule to strip gun rights from some beneficiaries (Original Post) SecularMotion May 2016 OP

Must be diagnosed disabled with mental illness, and have 3rd party managing finances. mackdaddy May 2016 #1

Could someone explain ... Straw Man May 2016 #2

mackdaddy

(1,890 posts)

1. Must be diagnosed disabled with mental illness, and have 3rd party managing finances.

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon May 2, 2016, 09:44 PM

May 2016

First, individuals would have to file a claim based on disability. Next, the individual would have to have been adjudicated as having a Mental Disorder Listing and a corresponding primary diagnosis code in Social Security’s records based on that mental impairment.

Further, the individual would have to be an adult over 18 but under retirement age. Finally, after matching the other four conditions, the beneficiary would have to receive their benefits through a representative payee approved by the agency due to being incapable of managing their own payments.

This does not sound too extreme to me.

Straw Man

(6,911 posts)

2. Could someone explain ...

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue May 3, 2016, 02:15 AM

May 2016

Those who could possibly be at risk of being reported to NICS would be notified during their adjudication process that they might lose their gun rights depending on the findings. Those who did will be notified in writing and have an opportunity to have their case reviewed during which they would have to provide written statements, current and past mental health status for the past five years as well as a criminal history report.

... why these mental health diagnoses and criminal reports haven't already been reported to NICS? I'm not really comfortable with using the Social Security system as a law enforcement tool.

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