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BigmanPigman

(53,899 posts)
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 08:31 PM 13 hrs ago

I'm not sure if this is the correct forum to post about "white men"

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I know that facts show white men are a real problem these days and they have been. White men are responsible for 99% of gun deaths. White men control all branches of our govt. White men control most religions. History shows that this has been an issue for thousands of years.

So, what do we do?!?

Can our future as a civilization possibly be changed at this point?

I have only questions but would like some realistic answers.
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hlthe2b

(111,537 posts)
1. "When God Was a Woman"- Merlin Stone
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 08:40 PM
13 hrs ago

There were major matriarchal societies, so not all were white male-controlled over thousands of years--and that includes religion/religious practices.

I read it many, many years ago. I'd say it is time to go back and see if today's issues might have some hint of an ancient answer. At least we can better understand what happened long ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_God_Was_a_Woman

leftieNanner

(16,052 posts)
3. When the men thought
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 08:57 PM
13 hrs ago

Women were magical because they could bear children, we had power. Once they figured out that they were part of the equation, then they changed the game.

Attilatheblond

(7,356 posts)
5. Saw my copy the other day and thought.... hmmmm need to read that again.
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:28 PM
12 hrs ago

Usually don't notice my old books as I dust, but something tapped my psyche and said "It's here! Take another look" this time.

hlthe2b

(111,537 posts)
6. You would not believe how much copies are going for at used book stores and ebay....
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:31 PM
12 hrs ago

I guess it has been out of print for a while?

I found it interesting that there was a WIKI page devoted to it (linked above). It was apparently a far more influential book than I had realized.

SheltieLover

(74,122 posts)
13. Thx for sharing!
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:25 AM
9 hrs ago

Just put an ecopy on hold at my library!

I recall watching a film in college of an ancient civilization being unearthed by anthropologists & it was at the time said to be the oldest religious artifacts found & clearly depicted a female goddess.

Another great read is "Crossing to Avalon: A Woman's Midlife Quest for the Sacred Feminine" by Jean Shinoda Bolen, MD. She is both a psychiatrist & a Jungian analyst & one of my fav authors of non-fiction work.

Enjoy!

Keepthesoulalive

(1,858 posts)
2. No
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 08:57 PM
13 hrs ago

It’s a god complex combined with selfishness. They do not want to change and American culture coddles them.

multigraincracker

(36,371 posts)
9. Spot on. It's cultural not "racial".
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:47 PM
12 hrs ago

According to scientists, there is only one race, the human race There are more genetic differences within the so called races than between them. From grayish pink to darker shades of brown. Those are variations of very few of the human genome. But, they are visual and that seems to be the easiest way to divide groups.
Also it’s the same with gender. Gender involved 72 human genes. It’s more of a curve than an either or.
Of course it’s simpler draw lines than to accept reality. It requires critical thinking,

58Sunliner

(6,126 posts)
7. Men everywhere have issues.
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:35 PM
12 hrs ago

Rape, war, child abuse, trafficking, murder, sociopathy, mostly men. A higher percentage are white men in this country. I will say I have not compared stats with other countries to see which men by race or nationality, are over- represented in violence by population.

soldierant

(8,983 posts)
10. It's more a question of power than color, and I don't doubt that
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 10:25 PM
11 hrs ago

wealth is a huge indicator of power, One word: Diddy. (and OJ also comes to mind.)

58Sunliner

(6,126 posts)
15. In many countries, men have more power and women have fewer rights and less status.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:44 AM
9 hrs ago

I am reminded of the caste system in India, and the prejudice of color in some SA countries. Also in Australia against the natives, as well as native Indians in the US and Canada.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,029 posts)
8. Some white men are the problem, but please don't include me & half DU. Wrong that W.M. cause 99% of gun deaths.
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:44 PM
12 hrs ago
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7226a9.htm

That link has gun murders by race of victims. Of all those black deaths by gun, you can't make a case that almost none of them are committed by blacks or without involvement by whites.

There is no reason to sabotage your important point (white male problem) with fake statistics, especially when we (DU) call out any tRump / maga fake statistics.

SheltieLover

(74,122 posts)
12. A sociologist friend contends that when rethugs outsourced factory jobs needed for guys to take care of their families,
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:09 AM
9 hrs ago

that caused a lot of these problems.

I recall being a kid & my HS age brother & his friends all bought & paid for brand new very nice cars -- mustangs, camaros, cutlesses, road runners, etc -- working part-time at a burger joint that charged 15-cents for burgers.

This does not address the entire pronlem of caucasian males dominating religion & politics, of course, only the violent criminal aspects.

The Dr. of sociology contends that when rethugs outsourced all the US factory jobs, guys lost their means to support their families without needing a lengthy & pricey college education. And they lost a part of their identities in the process, to have a job to go to & do (typically) "guy stuff" with machines, etc.

As is historically the case with school kids, most females tend to internalize stressors (depression, eating disorders, self-mutilation) & males tend to act out more, misbehaving in more observable ways such as fighting, property damage, etc.

I find it astounding that after the immense problems & pain caused to American families with greedy rethug factory job outsourcing, now kraznov is imposing tariffs on imports & complaining goods are not manufactured in the US! Of course, Kraznov is not giving tax breaks or other incentives to businesses to bring back the factory jobs the rethugs outsourced...

Wth???

Anyway, I absolutely do not condone crime, but how can we as a society restore males' collective sense of self-worth so that they aren't constantly in a state of rage?

One thing is adequate mental healthcare, but they must be willing & insurance needs to cover it!

A very complex problem -- as always -- created in large part by rethugs & their insatiable greed.


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