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Related: About this forumInfluencers made millions pushing 'wild' births - now the Free Birth Society is linked to baby deaths around the world
A year-long investigation reveals how mothers lost children after being radicalised by uplifting podcast tales of births without midwives or doctors
Investigation by Sirin Kale and Lucy Osborne
Sat 22 Nov 2025 02.00 EST
As Esau Lopez was asphyxiated for the first 17 minutes of his life on Earth, the atmosphere in the room remained serene, even ecstatic. Acoustic music crooned from a speaker in a modest two-bedroom apartment in a suburb of Pennsylvania. You are a queen, murmured one of three friends in the room.
Only Esaus mother, Gabrielle Lopez, felt something was wrong. She was pushing hard, but her son would not be born. Can you help [him] out? she asked, as Esau crowned. Baby is coming, the friend replied. Four minutes later, Lopez asked again, Can you grab [him]? Another friend murmured, Baby is safe. Six minutes passed. Again, Lopez asked, Can you grab [him]?
Lopez could not see the cord wrapped around her sons neck, nor the bubbles blowing from his mouth. She did not know that his shoulder was grinding against her pubic bone, like a tire spinning on gravel. But deep down, she says, I knew he was stuck.
Esau was experiencing shoulder dystocia, meaning his head was born, but his body did not follow. Midwives and obstetricians are trained in how to resolve this complication, which occurs in up to 1% of births, but as Lopez was freebirthing, meaning giving birth without any medical providers present, no one in the room understood that, with every minute that passed, Esau was sustaining an irreversible brain injury. In a birth attended by a trained professional, a five-minute delay between a babys head and body emerging would be an emergency. Seventeen minutes is unthinkable.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/nov/22/free-birth-society-linked-to-babies-deaths-investigation?CMP=bsky_gu
hlthe2b
(112,233 posts)throughout history. While they may vary based on any formal education versus experience and thus, interface with formal obstetric care--as is the case in the Western world, this has been the case throughout recorded history (and undoubtedly, before). In remote cultures and areas, that EXPERIENCE goes a very long way, as they have often been taught by the generations who preceded them.
MY BP just peaks when I hear the damned term "internet influencer," which overwhelmingly implies a young (typically) person with no more credentials or training or expertise than a big damned mouth and an unearned following on YouTube or elsewhere on the internet. While not limited to Gen-Z, it is an explosive Gen-Z phenomenon and one that is going to cause far more harm than we can even imagine from this trend. I get it. COVID-19 and homebound generations were looking for information not available from those they interacted with in real life. Add to that the mind-crushing trend of online celebrity-worship, and the "INFLUENCER" phenomenon was bound to happen. Then add to it the intentional anti-science, anti-education, anti-qualification/training/credential movement pushed by MAGA, and we are looking at an explosive disaster.
Don't dare tell me how good unrestrained "influencer" culture is. The explosion from my end will encompass you as well.
Mad Linguist
(8 posts)Freebirthing
Raw Milk
Antivax
Are we in the Middle Ages?
Ilsa
(63,627 posts)wrong in nature, too. Veterinarians assist in large animal births when things go wrong.
I thought the objective was to have a healthy baby and mother, not to rack up Instagram followers.
QueerDuck
(688 posts)I wonder if that person has a point... albeit blunt and sounding a bit heartless in its cold directness.