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Eugene

(66,372 posts)
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 04:59 PM Jun 2025

Ukraine hit fewer Russian planes than it estimated, US officials say

Source: Reuters

Exclusive-Ukraine hit fewer Russian planes than it estimated, US officials say

Phil Stewart and Idrees Ali
Wed, June 4, 2025 at 3:57 PM EDT·4 min read

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The United States assesses that Ukraine's drone attack over the weekend hit as many as 20 Russian warplanes, destroying around 10 of them, two U.S. officials told Reuters, a figure that is about half the number estimated by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

Still, the U.S. officials described the attack as highly significant, with one of them cautioning that it could drive Moscow to a far more severe negotiating position in the U.S.-brokered talks to end more than three years of war.

Russian President Vladimir Putin told U.S. President Donald Trump in a telephone conversation on Wednesday that Moscow would have to respond to attack, Trump said in a social media post.

Trump added it "was a good conversation, but not a conversation that will lead to immediate peace."

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Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-ukraine-hit-fewer-russian-195714573.html

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Ukraine hit fewer Russian planes than it estimated, US officials say (Original Post) Eugene Jun 2025 OP
And I believe this administration..... Lovie777 Jun 2025 #1
T-rump is pro Putin and lies about most everything, so no, I don't believe these figures...I believe Ukraine... wcmagumba Jun 2025 #2
Vladwashers are going to Vladwash BeyondGeography Jun 2025 #3
We get where you are going but Vlad is not an adjective Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #6
red-washers? niyad Jun 2025 #8
Of course the US has to disparage the attack Ritabert Jun 2025 #4
I do not believe anything the US government says. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #5
Unidentified "officials" from which agency? So ruzzia must respond. . niyad Jun 2025 #7

wcmagumba

(4,712 posts)
2. T-rump is pro Putin and lies about most everything, so no, I don't believe these figures...I believe Ukraine...
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:05 PM
Jun 2025

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,608 posts)
6. We get where you are going but Vlad is not an adjective
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:27 PM
Jun 2025

Try "Sanewashers are going to sanewash Vlad". Or fascist-washers, but best if the adjective is a single syllable. Or "dic-washer" / "dict-washer" (dictator), but that is actually the opposite of your meaning. Maybe "saint-washing".

All from "white-washing" where white is an adjective (as in Tom Sawyer found a great way to avoid white-washing the fence). In many cases it's hard to come up with easily understood smooth flowing phraseology and I don't know the way here.

Ritabert

(1,658 posts)
4. Of course the US has to disparage the attack
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:11 PM
Jun 2025

...since they weren't briefed on it. Tit for tat.

Irish_Dem

(75,068 posts)
5. I do not believe anything the US government says.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:41 PM
Jun 2025

They are a group of pathological liars and work for Putin.

niyad

(127,371 posts)
7. Unidentified "officials" from which agency? So ruzzia must respond. .
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 11:41 PM
Jun 2025

even though Ukraine was responding to endless ruzzian attacks? Fuck orange, fuck putler, and fuck kellog, who ought to know better.

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