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hatrack

(65,469 posts)
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 06:59 AM 12 hrs ago

When No One Remembers What The World Was Once Like, Will Anyone Care About Climate & The Environment?

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A potential consequence of widespread shifting baseline syndrome is lowered expectations for environmental quality that lead to unambitious conservation policies and programs. For example, should Denverites be content with the urban South Platte River as it is now — pretty, home to carp and occasional e-scooters? Or should we aim for a South Platte River so pollution-free that children can safely dunk their heads under? My baseline is the former, but Denver’s earliest settlers — and the people living in the region for millennia prior — would perhaps have been scandalized to see an unswimmable-river, considering the latter a baseline.

Climate change is tangibly underway. Without drastic and immediate action at the federal and international level, we have a long road ahead. Before the next generation’s expectation of our environment erodes, it’s worth taking stock — what’s our baseline? What version of the Centennial State should my baby neighbor fight for one day? Because it shouldn’t be the parched winter and smoky summer of 2026.

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Consider the changing levels of precipitation in Colorado. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has data of annual precipitation in Colorado going back to 1895. So we know that as of 2024, four of the five driest years on record in the state occurred after 2000. But that fact doesn’t convey the experience of climate change like a memory does, such as Michael’s memory of “monsoon rains.” Michael, who grew up on a celery farm in Arvada in the 1960s-80s, remembers a downpour of monsoon rains every summer afternoon, an important source of water for the farm. These days, afternoon storms still occur, but, he says, not as reliably.

Or, consider Karina’s perception of temperature change. She grew up in Louisville in the 2000s. As a kid, Karina and her sister spent winter weekends riding the bus to Eldora to snowboard. As an adult, she senses that the season starts later and ends earlier, giving her fewer opportunities to snowboard.I have heard from individuals who are shocked by windier summers, earlier spring blooms, and the preponderance of wildfires, smoke, and dangerous natural disasters, like the floods of 2013. Although subjective and anecdotal, these feelings capture the tangible outcomes of our shifting climate better than numbers. Stories about climate change can contribute to the quantitative data that academics and researchers collect, and could make the data more comprehensible.

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https://coloradonewsline.com/2026/07/14/climate-change-better-than-numbers/

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When No One Remembers What The World Was Once Like, Will Anyone Care About Climate & The Environment? (Original Post) hatrack 12 hrs ago OP
They might. Vogon_Glory 11 hrs ago #1
Landscape amnesia is a real thing. People forget, or never knew, what a place was like before. Now--climate amnesia. Timeflyer 10 hrs ago #2
"Climate change is tangibly underway?" NNadir 10 hrs ago #3
Earth can not support the current human population. multigraincracker 10 hrs ago #4

Vogon_Glory

(10,460 posts)
1. They might.
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 07:37 AM
11 hrs ago

Despite humans’ tendencies to forget the past, there’s too much evidence about the way things used to be for the powers-that-be to pretend that things used to be different.

Just off-shore are going to be trillions of dollars of ruined infrastructure under salt water. There are going to be a lot of desert communities abandoned for lack of water. There are also going to be a lot of former ski resorts that went belly-up for lack of adequate snowfall.

Folks in Medieval and early-modern Europe and elsewhere may have had ruins, guesswork, and scattered recollections of former civilizations. Future scholars and researchers will have trillions of bytes of damning evidence available on-line.

I think there will be people who’ll care—and people who’ll still be angry.

I don’t think that the old “That’s the price of progress” BS will carry that much weight.

Timeflyer

(3,826 posts)
2. Landscape amnesia is a real thing. People forget, or never knew, what a place was like before. Now--climate amnesia.
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 08:41 AM
10 hrs ago

Developers in Florida count on it to leave them free to savage natural areas. And they have the money to buy the politicians who let them do it, take the money, and run.

multigraincracker

(38,484 posts)
4. Earth can not support the current human population.
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 09:04 AM
10 hrs ago

The results will not be pretty, but nature will come up with a solution. Weather, decease and war will solve it. I’m lucky enough to be at my Best if Used By date. I’m grateful for that.

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