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Caribbeans

(1,299 posts)
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:44 AM Friday

China fast-tracks hydrogen strategy to 'scale-up' phase in high-stakes energy transition


A bus is refuelled with hydrogen in China’s Shandong province. Photo: Getty

China fast-tracks hydrogen strategy to ‘scale-up’ phase in high-stakes energy transition

China targets ‘bold innovation’ as falling renewable-energy costs allow it to leverage 50 per cent share of global green hydrogen production capacity

SCMP | Carol Yangin in Beijing | 16 Apr 2026

Amid heightening global anxieties over energy security fuelled by the escalating conflict in the Middle East, China’s top energy regulator has pledged to accelerate the development of its hydrogen industry, hailing the fuel as a “strategic lever” to fortify national energy resilience.

The National Energy Administration (NEA) called for “bold innovation” in the sector during a recent meeting reviewing the progress of hydrogen pilots and outlining future tasks, according to an official readout released on Wednesday.

Highlighting hydrogen’s role in the global energy revolution, the regulator described the fuel as a “key track” in building a modern industrial system.

Last week’s meeting served to emphasise that hydrogen development must be tailored to local conditions, while urging a push for institutional reforms and specifically calling for innovations in hydrogen-trading mechanisms and green certifications...more
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3350313/china-fast-tracks-hydrogen-strategy-scale-phase-high-stakes-energy-transition



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NNadir

(38,308 posts)
1. The bullshit never stops. As always, in China, as is the case everywhere on the planet, hydrogen is made...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 03:33 AM
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....from fossil fuels.

This has always been the case, and always will be the case, no matter how many stupid slick videos are produced.

One feature of antinukes is that they are indifferent to, and are in fact pushing for in this and other cases for fossil fuels.

This is why their so called "renewable energy will save us" bullshit is a horrible scam that has left the planet in flames with millions, many in China, dying from air pollution each year, while they insipidly cry "radioactivity" in contempt for science and humanity.

A Giant Climate Lie: When they're selling hydrogen, what they're really selling is fossil fuels.

Subsidizing Grid-Based Electrolytic Hydrogen Will Increase Greenhouse Gas Emissions in Coal Dominated Power Systems Liqun Peng, Yang Guo, Shangwei Liu, Gang He, and Denise L. Mauzerall Environmental Science & Technology 2024 58 (12), 5187-5195

The text is clear enough.

From the introductory text:

... Currently, nearly all hydrogen in China is either produced directly from fossil fuels (55% from coal gasification and 14% from steam methane reforming (SMR)) or as a byproduct of petroleum refining (28%), with only 1% coming from water electrolysis. (2) Producing 1 kg of coal- or SMR-based hydrogen emits roughly 19 and 10 kg of CO2, respectively. (3) In 2020, hydrogen production from fossil fuels in China emitted approximately 322Tg of CO2, equivalent to 25% of total CO2 emissions from industrial processes, a number expected to rise with increasing hydrogen demand. (4) Industrial processes include production of nonmetallic mineral products, chemical, and metal products, as well as production and consumption of halocarbons and sulfur hexafluoride. (4)
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The bold, italics and underlining is mine.

EST: Chinese Hydrogen Production Is Making Climate Change Worse.


There are people - I'd like to be recorded among them - who can see through shallow lies.



thought crime

(1,700 posts)
3. What part of the word, "transition", do you not understand?
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:15 PM
Friday

At the beginning, the amount of hydrogen produced from renewable sources will be small. As the transition continues, the amount of hydrogen produced from renewables will grow. Eventually, most hydrogen will be produced from renewable sources. The most important thing right now is to develop a market for hydrogen that will drive development of renewable energy.

Hydrogen is important because it stores energy for use in things like transport systems, back up for grids, etc. There is energy loss when producing hydrogen but that is just another cost. Engineers have learned how to defeat the "tyranny" of the second law of thermodynamics.

Your arguments against renewable energy rely on much distortion. In the long run, it makes no difference. The energy transition will continue without you.



NNadir

(38,308 posts)
4. What part of half a century of hydrogen bullshit escapes the attention of antinukes? The first issue of the...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 05:18 PM
Friday

Last edited Fri Apr 17, 2026, 05:56 PM - Edit history (1)

...International Journal of Hydrogen Energy, linked here, was in 1976.

Let's see...um...it's um, what, 2026. Can we do some addition and subtraction? 2026-1976 =?

Could it be 50?

How many years in a century? Could that be 100?

50/100 is what? Could it be 1/2?

Half a century? You don't say?

Now, perhaps I'm being confused with a scientifically illiterate rube who hasn't been reading the primary scientific literature for many decades on the subject of energy and the environment.

But I have been involved in understanding energy issues for decades, going back to the 1970s when I was a dumb shit antinuke, through the period when the reactor at Chornobyl blew up, changing my views of nuclear energy from negative to positive, as was the case for this Ukrainian guy: Interview: From Anti-Nuclear to Eco-Pragmatism

Now, as for the year of founding of the International Journal of Hydrogen Energy:

In the week beginning April 18, 1976, the concentration of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide in the planetary atmosphere was 333.43 ppm.

Yesterday, it was:

April 16: 429.36 ppm
April 15: 429.26 ppm
April 14: 429.67 ppm
April 13: 429.68 ppm
April 12: 430.84 ppm
Last Updated: April 17, 2026

Recent Daily Average Mauna Loa CO2

Any idea what 429.36 - 333.43 might be?

Now, I understand fully that dreamy energy rubes assume that other people are not paying attention, mostly because they seem not to know what actual "attention" would be.

I've been reading the International Journal of Energy for more than 30 years, mostly in connection with the many thermal hydrogen cycles that are known.

This said, I'm not a pathetic ass talking shit about hydrogen cars, hydrogen trucks, hydrogen lawnmowers, bullshit upon bullshit. I've worked with hydrogen in the lab; I've personally done hundreds if not thousands of hydrogenations in all kinds of organic synthetic settings. I know hydrogen personally.

Hydrogen is a useful synthetic intermediate critical to the world's food supply to make ammonia by the Haber-Bosch process and in China, the largest industrial practitioner of that process, hydrogen is made overwhelmingly from dangerous coal, followed by dangerous natural gas, and as a side product from dangerous petroleum, substances that anti-nukes couldn't care less about.

As for all this delusional chanting about an "energy transition'" it's just that, delusional chanting, not especially different from that practiced in other faith based settings.

There is no "energy transition."

We are burning more fossil fuels than ever. The use of wind and solar garbage is growing slower than the use of fossil fuels

Here, from the most recent edition, are the figures, in Exajoules, for the primary energy produced from each energy source in the most recent edition: World Energy Outlook 2025:



Page 420.

Chanting about the existence of an "energy transition" is the exact equivalent of chanting Namu Myōhō Renge Kyō to cure pancreatic cancer. Cancer cells don't care about Buddha, and the atmosphere doesn't give a shit about fake "energy transitions."

I have never met an antinuke who gives a shit about fossil fuels, especially since their hydrogen shell game is actually a celebration of fossil fuels, since the manufacture of hydrogen from fossil fuels destroys the exergy of fossil fuels, and if used, unwisely, for toys like hydrogen buses, cars and trucks, simply makes the climate impact of those fossil fuels worse.

It's called the "2nd Law of Thermodynamics," which is not reversible by wishful thinking.

Again:

A Giant Climate Lie: When they're selling hydrogen, what they're really selling is fossil fuels.

Have a nice weekend.



thought crime

(1,700 posts)
5. There is no "energy transition."?? The table you display clearly shows it.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 06:53 PM
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If you don't see an energy transition there you are turning a blind eye to it. Any special reason you are doing that?

Quotes from or about Bill McKibben on the subject of renewables.

"Bill McKibben advocates for a rapid, global transition to solar and wind energy, highlighting them as the cheapest and most effective tools to fight climate change. He emphasizes that renewable technology is now standard, mature, and rapidly growing, often outperforming fossil fuels in cost-efficiency."

"He frequently highlights that "the sun doesn't send a bill," noting that energy abundance is no longer exclusive to wealthy nations."

"McKibben often highlights that the energy density of renewables has reached a point where, paired with battery storage, they can reliably power modern economies."

"This is the Costco of energy, man".

"Here Comes the Sun". https://billmckibben.com/books/here-comes-the-sun/



thought crime

(1,700 posts)
2. Using Hydrogen produced from Clean/Renewable sources is an important goal.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:58 PM
Friday

China's serious commitment to a transition to safe renewable clean energy is laudable. They are leading the way for the world to use the effectively limitless renewable energy sources that can provide all our energy needs.

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