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applegrove

(129,322 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 05:13 AM Friday

Renewable energy is cheaper, creates more growth and creates more jobs than fossil fuel does/will

It’s amazing how quickly the global narrative has shifted; renewables now outcompete fossil fuels on cost, growth and jobs.

If governments get the policy right, the green transition could reduce inequality rather than repeat the mistakes of the fossil fuel era.

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Ian Hall (@ianhall.bsky.social) 2025-11-14T08:03:03.247Z
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Renewable energy is cheaper, creates more growth and creates more jobs than fossil fuel does/will (Original Post) applegrove Friday OP
Exactly, sun and wind are free. You'd think that would appeal to these right wingers. Walleye Friday #1
They refuse to prote anything they can't make a profit off of applegrove Friday #2
I bet they would've been against the hydroelectric projects if they've been around then Walleye Friday #4
Absolutely. applegrove Friday #6
Bribes from the fossil fuel lobby The Wizard Friday #3
It's not cheaper. hunter Friday #5

Walleye

(43,252 posts)
1. Exactly, sun and wind are free. You'd think that would appeal to these right wingers.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 05:18 AM
Friday

They are just so into being “oil men” they can’t quit it

applegrove

(129,322 posts)
2. They refuse to prote anything they can't make a profit off of
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 05:33 AM
Friday

every single way power is used.

The Wizard

(13,492 posts)
3. Bribes from the fossil fuel lobby
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 07:02 AM
Friday

hold sway over legislation. The bribing class writes the laws.

hunter

(40,201 posts)
5. It's not cheaper.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 12:12 PM
Friday

Places with aggressive renewable energy programs, such as California, Germany, and Denmark, have some of the most expensive electricity in the developed world.

The infrastructure required to keep an electric grid with large renewable energy inputs stable is not cheap.

The costs of renewable energy are the same at any scale. I challenge anyone to build an off-grid solar powered home with all the modern conveniences that's "cheap," especially one that doesn't rely on fossil fueled backup power.

Once again, I refer people to this chart:

https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/DE/12mo/monthly

The cost of electricity in "green" nuclear powered France is almost half what it is in brown Germany.

The only reason Denmark's electric grids are green and yellow is that their neighboring nations act as buffers when Denmark's renewable electricity supply exceeds their demand. When Denmark's renewable electricity demand exceeds their supply they import supposedly "green" electricity from neighboring states. Mostly this is all an accounting trick.

Electricity in Denmark cost even more than it does in Germany.

There is no energy "transition." So called renewable energy will only prolong our dependence on fossil fuels, thus doing nothing in the long run to reduce the total amount of greenhouse gasses humans dump into earth's atmosphere.

I'll say it once again, the only energy resource capable of displacing fossil fuels entirely is nuclear power.

Nuclear power is, of course, capable of displacing large scale renewable energy projects too, which forces the renewable energy industry into an awkward alliance with the fossil fuel industry, most especially the filthy natural gas industry.



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