Environment & Energy
Related: About this forumBalcony solar panels. Sounds like a great idea. Shhhh!
Don't tell Trump. He'll make it illegal.
Some good news! These plus-in systems are all over Europe, whereas rooftop solar in the US is stupidly tied up in red tape, making it costly. All states should adopt this, like Utah did. And entirely nonpartisanâwhich is a weird thing to have to say about clean energy.
— Mother Jones (@motherjones.com) 2025-09-27T21:27:20.843Z

BidenRocks
(2,270 posts)Surely there's a rule against these.
Gimpyknee
(716 posts)Bristlecone
(10,892 posts)I expect more from Mother Jones.
Plug-in
mopinko
(72,995 posts)shd come as a package.
aggiesal
(10,340 posts)There is a reason why solar panels have to go through approvals.
applegrove
(128,383 posts)aggiesal
(10,340 posts)5 years ago, I bought a home that was built in 1970.
The Main Electrical Panel (EMP) had an electrical wire from the street hub that could not handle any extra electrical load and the EMP did not have any available slots for the extra solar connections.
I chose to upgrade the panel instead of installing additional auxiliary Electrical Panels.
I needed a ditch dug from the electrical street hub. Luckily it was on my property, so the ditch was only about 40 ft. long. I had a new thicker gauge wire installed to be able to handle the extra electrical load, from the house to the street hub.
All this took about 6 months to complete because it required different contractors to complete each stage and they had to be done in order. Plus the solar panel company had the incorrect panel design so they had to resubmit to proper electrical connections for approval, which took another 6 months to get approval.
applegrove
(128,383 posts)Hopefully it will pay for itself, in electricity bill savings and selling it back to the grid, soon.
hunter
(39,973 posts)We got along fine with this limited service so long as we remembered that we could only use one large appliance at a time. Using the microwave oven and the washing machine at the same time, for example, would blow the old glass Edison style fuse which meant a trip to the basement to replace it. One learns fast.
The old house had first been wired with knob-and-tube but that had been replaced with BX 12/2, maybe in the 'fifties.
I would have felt safe plugging a kilowatt of solar into that system except that that the meters were "dumb" in those days and would have run backwards at times, giving us an unjustified free ride on the electric grid, like jumping the turnstiles on the subway.
Our current house has a smart meter. If you push electricity back onto the grid without a formal solar contract and approved solar power system your meter will not run backwards and you'll get a nasty letter from the electric company.
NNadir
(36,648 posts)They're here:
Trends in Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide.
I note that in the picture the future electronic waste hanging on the balcony are partially shaded by (gasp) trees.
Maybe the owner can sue the neighbor to make the neighbor cut down the trees for a few extra Watts at noon on a sunny day.
This sort of thing actually happens, trees are cut down for the useless solar affectation.
Cambridge files to stop solar project in Lexington that would raze 1,000 trees, expose water source
Decades of solar hype have done nothing, zero, zip, zilch to address the collapse of the planetary atmosphere. The belief that it has something to do with environmental issues is equivalent to the belief that Jesus will come again and appear on television with the orange pervert in the White House.