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hatrack

(63,028 posts)
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:11 AM Saturday

Lake In Wyoming's Wind River Range Tests At 324X The Safe Limit For Fecal Bacteria

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Lonesome Lake has long been reputed to be unfit for drinking and even swimming. That’s due to contamination presumed to be from the hordes of humans who poop while traveling through the popular backcountry basin. Now there’s a datapoint to back it up. On Aug. 9, 2022, during the height of the recreation season, environmental regulators gathered a water sample from a foot below the surface near the outlet of Lonesome Lake.

The concentration of Enterococci—bacteria indicative of fecal matter—jumped off the page. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency didn’t make the results public for two years. When they were published, heads turned. Lonesome Lake’s sample contained 490,895 calibrator cell equivalents of Enterococci for every 100 milliliters. The EPA’s safety threshold for swimming is 1,280 CCE/100 mL.


A group of backpackers from the Salt Lake City area cross the outlet of Lonesome Lake on July 9. Credit: Mike Koshmrl/WyoFile

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Regardless of who’s doing the pooping, there’s a lot of it and it’s easy to find. WyoFile visited Lonesome Lake in July and within minutes found seven makeshift latrines in likely areas—in the trees, not far off the trail. Most were loosely buried to varying degrees. In other places, toilet paper and excrement had become exposed.

And it’s not yet peak busy season. Early July, according to the trail-counter data, attracts 100 people or fewer to Lonesome Lake weekly. By early August, the weekly counts crest 250 wilderness travelers, and by the middle of August, a whopping 400 people are trekking into the Cirque of the Towers every seven days. Collectively, it’s a lot of biomass. A decent chunk of it gets left behind. Back-of-the-napkin poop math suggests that, at roughly a quarter pound per stool, perhaps 100 pounds of human feces are getting squished under rocks or buried in the shallow soil that rings Lonesome Lake on a weekly basis during the height of summer.

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https://insideclimatenews.org/news/19072025/wyoming-lonesome-lake-fecal-contamination/

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Lake In Wyoming's Wind River Range Tests At 324X The Safe Limit For Fecal Bacteria (Original Post) hatrack Saturday OP
A pristine natural site. Norrrm Saturday #1
I was going to suggest... GiqueCee Saturday #2
Just wondering if they'd just break down and install some pit toilets. hatrack Saturday #3
There are few "pristine" places left on earth. hunter Saturday #4

Norrrm

(2,433 posts)
1. A pristine natural site.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:42 AM
Saturday

Last edited Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:55 AM - Edit history (1)

Unspoiled

I know someone who went partway up to lower/medium levels of Mt Everest.

Said that slightly off the trail were many, many little piles of poop.

it's cold so it does not deteriorate. It just keeps accumulating.

Maybe they have a 'pack it out' policy now.

GiqueCee

(2,572 posts)
2. I was going to suggest...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:12 AM
Saturday

... the same thing: If you bring it in, then pack it out.

I've read that, aside from tons of tookie, Everest is still littered with corpses, many of which are nearly a hundred years old, and are regarded as landmarks. They are desiccated, but not fully decomposed. Ick.
Given such challenging terrain, it is reportedly a near impossibility to remove them. Ick again.

hatrack

(63,028 posts)
3. Just wondering if they'd just break down and install some pit toilets.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:30 AM
Saturday

They did the same thing in Coyote Gulch (Escalante NM) since it's hugely popular, like the Cirque.

hunter

(39,671 posts)
4. There are few "pristine" places left on earth.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:58 PM
Saturday

None, if you count global pollutants like greenhouse gasses, microplastics, mercury, etc.

Or Starlink.

Mount Everest would be a more "pristine" place if they built an aerial tram to the top with a restaurant, hotel, and observation deck.

It would take some of the steam out of climbers too if they got to the top only to be waved at by some flabby guy wearing Bermuda Shorts sipping a margarita on the other side of the glass.

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