non-MAGA Christians (CINOs).

Particularly in the South -- part of the reason the KKK fire-bombed so many churches. I'm sometimes bothered by seeing Dems campaigning from the pulpit of Black churches, but there are historical and cultural reasons for it. The meaning of the word "church" can be different for different people -- in this case, brought on more by necessity than choice.

Today we are reminded that even 62 years later, America still has a big problem with political violence

62 years ago today the 16th Street Church in Birmingham Alabama was bombed

When one of the girls was murdered, I discovered that she was named ‘Denise
and was born in 1951. My name is Denise and I was born in 1951.
I have felt her presence or my memory of her tragic death ever since.

He would say that's the price of being woke and then make up some lie about it

There was a small, rickety old church by the side of a local road near where I grew up. It had almost no parking spaces and was supported by a truss in the back where the hillside had eroded away -- i.e. not premium property. Occasionally we would drive by on Sunday mornings and see an amazingly large crowd of Black churchgoers -- mostly elderly -- and cars jammed in wherever they could find the space. Then, suddenly, one day it was gone. We later learned someone had burned it down. At the time (I was still in grade school) I was just thinking "vandalism" but later realized it was probably a hate crime.

Things were pretty segregated where I grew up -- not by law, but by custom and especially "redlining", most likely. We didn't know of a single Black family in our subdivision and I only ever saw two Black students in five years at the same school, so I just didn't know what sort of things Blacks put up with until I grew up and went to college, but in informed retrospect there were a lot of bad signs there.

Actually, my Dad's family lived in B'ham, but all that happened "over there" at "that church" to "those people", so even though it was national news we didn't hear much about it as kids. Had to read the history books to find out what happened just a short distance from relatives we visited fairly frequently.

Have we learned ANYTHING?

Haven’t we learned ANYTHING?

and his drooling fanbois would still say that you're taking it out of context.

honors evil.

It might somewhat if a selfish person runs into a burning building to save trapped children. But I can't see Charlie Kirk doing that.
CK was more a fire starter than a fire putter-outer.

The Right is trying to whitewash, pun intended, Kirk by portraying him as a great Christian patriotic family man. In reality he was a loser who couldn't get into West Point and dropped out of community college. I found this interesting article from Baptist News Global.

In her book Raising Them Right: The Untold Story of America’s Ultraconservative Youth Movement and its Plot for Power, journalist Kyle Spencer sums up Kirk’s trajectory within the politics of resentment: “His metamorphosis can be seen as a case study of the power of grievance politics and a reminder that resentment is an energizing fuel most potent when delivered by leaders who have felt it deeply themselves.”

Kirk’s resentment was in full-bloom a few months later at the start of his freshman year under the new Obama presidency. Obama’s career began in the same Chicago suburb where Kirk attended high school. While the first African American president’s political win was celebrated by most in the rapidly diversifying suburb, it was not celebrated by Kirk.

Whether it was Obama’s continuance of George W. Bush’s bank bailouts or his skin color, Kirk was not a fan. In response, he began building a contrarian political persona around his freshman interpretation of Reagan economics, the work of the economist Milton Friedman and gun rights.

Kirk’s classmates described him as “rude,” “arrogant” and as someone with “a superiority complex.” He called teachers with whom he disagreed “neo-Marxists” and often was belligerent in class. On the topic of gun rights, Spencer writes that Kirk “once asked a teacher if guns make people violent, ‘do forks make people fat?’”

https://baptistnews.com/article/how-charlie-kirk-went-from-college-dropout-to-trump-influencer-2/

It's all true

They don’t say the same thing about the garbage that came from Kirk’s mouth. It is viral and people love his fire. Atheists on Reddit are ready to go to church and say amen. We could use a few more like him telling the truth.

Or for those of you that have never read the Bible, Karma.
I see nothing to debate about in what he said. When one speaks the truth, there should be no controversity.

Just as many of us see what CK really did. He gets far more credit than he deserves for being willing to talk to his opponents. He was so arrogant that he believed he always won the debates he participated in, even though he didn't.

There was a time when I would have wondered how anyone could be so devoid of empathy, but now I recognize that too many MAGA cultists are actually enjoying the humiliation -- it's just more "retribution" for liberals trying to knock them off their perch.

Not unlike a TV show that you have already seen and know the ending but you have to watch. There's nothing else to watch. Stayed tuned.

Fox News was on and a front desk person was stomping around saying that they need to bring back public executions. I said that they did and now a very bad man is gone.
The contention is that I said he deserved to die.

Someone had to say it. Not a single vowel or consonant was out of place.

He’ll need it.
He does not deserve honor.