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In It to Win It

(11,040 posts)
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:49 AM Jul 2

BREAKING: The 11th Circuit, 2-1, holds that a trans woman has *not* shown that Florida's law banning her from

Chris Geidner
‪@chrisgeidner.bsky.social‬

BREAKING: The 11th Circuit, 2-1, holds that a trans woman has *not* shown that Florida’s law banning her from using her proper pronouns likely violates the First Amendment. The appeals court reverses the district court. https://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/files/202411239.pdf


BREAKING: The 11th Circuit, 2-1, holds that a trans woman has *not* shown that Florida’s law banning her from using her proper pronouns likely violates the First Amendment. The appeals court reverses the district court. media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub...

Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner.bsky.social) 2025-07-02T14:03:50.407Z

This is an absolutely outrageous decision — especially coming days after Mahmoud — from two Trump appointees and furthers the horrifying picture that is emerging and that I wrote about yesterday in covering Mahmoud at Law Dork: www.lawdork.com/p/scotus-par...

Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner.bsky.social) 2025-07-02T14:05:57.704Z

sad to see this. The law is atrocious animus, as there is no basis other than animus to force workplace misgendering like this. But the claim at issue here was a 1A claim, which is trickier - still the ct gets it wrong.

Jamie Fox (@whatlawfoxsays.bsky.social) 2025-07-02T15:00:19.157Z
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BREAKING: The 11th Circuit, 2-1, holds that a trans woman has *not* shown that Florida's law banning her from (Original Post) In It to Win It Jul 2 OP
This is probably viewed as a position of authority limitation. Frasier Balzov Jul 2 #1
My understanding is that it prohibits the teacher from using her own preferred pronouns. In It to Win It Jul 2 #2
Which seems odd FBaggins Jul 2 #3
Good morning children. Frasier Balzov Jul 2 #4

Frasier Balzov

(4,456 posts)
1. This is probably viewed as a position of authority limitation.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 12:41 PM
Jul 2

A teacher insisting on pronouns has the potential to violate the first amendment rights of students.

If I'm not mistaken, most of the free speech jurisprudence involving schools gives it protection in a way which sounds superficially absolute while keeping it institutionally tamped down.

In It to Win It

(11,040 posts)
2. My understanding is that it prohibits the teacher from using her own preferred pronouns.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 12:44 PM
Jul 2

I'd have to recap the complaint though. My memory is fuzzy on the details.

FBaggins

(28,230 posts)
3. Which seems odd
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 02:12 PM
Jul 2

I don’t remember having teachers who refer to themselves in the third person. Why does she need to use “she” in referring to herself?

Frasier Balzov

(4,456 posts)
4. Good morning children.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 02:48 PM
Jul 2

My name is Miss Landers.

It's probably in this context of the honorific.

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