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NTSB launches hearings on deadly Washington collision between a helicopter and passenger plane
The Associated Press
July 30, 2025, 12:10 AM

FILE - Salvage crews work on recovering wreckage near the site in the Potomac River of a mid-air collision between an American Airlines jet and a Black Hawk helicopter at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, Thursday, Feb. 6, 2025, in Arlington, Va. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana, File)(AP/Jose Luis Magana)
Three days of investigative hearings on the deadly midair collision over Washington in January begin Wednesday and aim to reveal new insights into what caused the crash between a passenger plane and an Army helicopter that killed 67 people.
The National Transportation Safety Board will question witnesses and investigators about how the actions of the Federal Aviation Administration and its air traffic controllers and the Army may have contributed to the nations deadliest plane crash since November 2001. Its likely too early for the board to identify the cause of the crash.
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The Associated Press
July 30, 2025, 12:10 AM

FILE - Salvage crews work on recovering wreckage near the site in the Potomac River of a mid-air collision between an American Airlines jet and a Black Hawk helicopter at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, Thursday, Feb. 6, 2025, in Arlington, Va. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana, File)(AP/Jose Luis Magana)
Three days of investigative hearings on the deadly midair collision over Washington in January begin Wednesday and aim to reveal new insights into what caused the crash between a passenger plane and an Army helicopter that killed 67 people.
The National Transportation Safety Board will question witnesses and investigators about how the actions of the Federal Aviation Administration and its air traffic controllers and the Army may have contributed to the nations deadliest plane crash since November 2001. Its likely too early for the board to identify the cause of the crash.
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JULY 30, 2025
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NTSB Holds Investigative Hearing on Jan. 29 Mid-Air Collision
The National Transportation Safety Board holds the first day of hearings regarding the investigation into the Jan. 29 mid-air collision between a commercial airliner and an Army helicopter.
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NTSB Holds Investigative Hearing on Jan. 29 Mid-Air Collision
The National Transportation Safety Board holds the first day of hearings regarding the investigation into the Jan. 29 mid-air collision between a commercial airliner and an Army helicopter.
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NTSB questions flight training procedures during congressional hearings over January plane crash
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Military chopper traffic over Washington was a worry leading up to fatal midair crash, NTSB hears
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(49,525 posts)1. MAGA already concluded DEI did it

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(65,963 posts)2. NTSB questions flight training procedures during congressional hearings over January plane crash
NTSB questions flight training procedures during congressional hearings over January plane crash
ABC Radio
July 31, 2025, 3:11 PM
(WASHINGTON) The National Transportation Safety Board on Thursday continued to grill officials from the Army, air traffic controllers and members from the Federal Aviation Administration over protocols following the January deadly air collision between a Black Hawk helicopter and a passenger jet approaching Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport (DCA.)
The hearing, the second of three days, is focused on the training guidance of the parties involved in the Jan. 29 incident that resulted in the deaths of 67 people. NTSB started the daylong hearing examining the responsibilities and readiness of DCAs air traffic controllers.
Clark Allen, the former operations manager of the control tower at DCA, was asked Thursday about the training for the air traffic controllers. Allen said they have been trained to flag a supervisor and ask for additional help if they are being overwhelmed, but said there is no training for supervisors to proactively look out for that pile up of duties.
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ABC Radio
July 31, 2025, 3:11 PM
(WASHINGTON) The National Transportation Safety Board on Thursday continued to grill officials from the Army, air traffic controllers and members from the Federal Aviation Administration over protocols following the January deadly air collision between a Black Hawk helicopter and a passenger jet approaching Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport (DCA.)
The hearing, the second of three days, is focused on the training guidance of the parties involved in the Jan. 29 incident that resulted in the deaths of 67 people. NTSB started the daylong hearing examining the responsibilities and readiness of DCAs air traffic controllers.
Clark Allen, the former operations manager of the control tower at DCA, was asked Thursday about the training for the air traffic controllers. Allen said they have been trained to flag a supervisor and ask for additional help if they are being overwhelmed, but said there is no training for supervisors to proactively look out for that pile up of duties.
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mahatmakanejeeves
(65,963 posts)3. Military chopper traffic over Washington was a worry leading up to fatal midair crash, NTSB hears
Military chopper traffic over Washington was a worry leading up to fatal midair crash, NTSB hears
By JOSH FUNK AP Transportation Writer
Published July 31, 2025 at 1:14PM
Updated July 31, 2025 at 3:07PM
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Military helicopter traffic over Washington was a longtime worry among aviators operating around the airport where an Army helicopter and commercial airliner collided this year, killing 67 people, federal investigators heard during testimony on Thursday.
It is the second of three days of witness testimony and public inquiry by the National Transportation Safety Board into the January midair crash over the Potomac River.
The board focused on air traffic control and heard Thursday that it was common for pilots to ask to use visual separation basically relying on their eyesight just as the Army Black Hawks pilot agreed to do the night of the crash. FAA officials also said controllers relied heavily on pilots using visual separation as a way to manage the complex airspace with so many helicopters flying around Washington D.C.
But Rick Dressler, an official with medevac operator Metro Aviation, told the board it is difficult to identify other aircraft in the night sky around [National Airport], especially if an onboard locator system was switched off, as Army choppers routinely did.
Dressler said that he and other civilian helicopter pilots in the area have long been concerned about the Army and Air Force helicopters flying around [Washington National] airport.
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By JOSH FUNK AP Transportation Writer
Published July 31, 2025 at 1:14PM
Updated July 31, 2025 at 3:07PM
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Military helicopter traffic over Washington was a longtime worry among aviators operating around the airport where an Army helicopter and commercial airliner collided this year, killing 67 people, federal investigators heard during testimony on Thursday.
It is the second of three days of witness testimony and public inquiry by the National Transportation Safety Board into the January midair crash over the Potomac River.
The board focused on air traffic control and heard Thursday that it was common for pilots to ask to use visual separation basically relying on their eyesight just as the Army Black Hawks pilot agreed to do the night of the crash. FAA officials also said controllers relied heavily on pilots using visual separation as a way to manage the complex airspace with so many helicopters flying around Washington D.C.
But Rick Dressler, an official with medevac operator Metro Aviation, told the board it is difficult to identify other aircraft in the night sky around [National Airport], especially if an onboard locator system was switched off, as Army choppers routinely did.
Dressler said that he and other civilian helicopter pilots in the area have long been concerned about the Army and Air Force helicopters flying around [Washington National] airport.
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