It needs to sound like this

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Don't like the remix. Makes it sound like elevator music.

Also, you must be riding in some pretty lit lifts if that remix is 'elevator music' to you, lolol.

and that's perfectly normal.

And versions of rock music that weaken/soften it ARE often described as elevator music or Muzak, and always have been.

"Ramble On" is not only arguably Led Zeppelin's best song, but arguably the best rock song ever. Here's one of the threads I've posted about it, with Rick Beato's two videos about it:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/103488442

This remix you posted IMO interferes with everything that makes the song great.

FWIW, I consider remixes in general (with very very few exceptions) an inferior form of music, showing either fear of individual creativity - trying to hitch a ride on another artist's fame - or ego in the sense of believing the original can be improved upon. I always want to tell remixers to make their own music, using their own talent. Maybe do a cover of the song. But don't just remix it.

I seem to have run afoul of the classic rock purity police squad, eeeeeeeeeeeek.

OMG, Celerity is a Led Zeppelin blasphemer, put her in in the public stocks!

You also should know that I immensely dislike a lot of the music posted in this group, but I feel no need, no compulsion, to come up in those oh-so-numerous OP threads and try and have go.

But hey, it is a free (to a point) discussion board after all, so you lot keep doing you, and I will keep doing me.




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Format: Vinyl, LP, Album
Country: US
Released: 1983
Genre: Rock
Style: Hard Rock, Punk

Figarosmom.

I posted in this thread, when I would otherwise have ignored your OP because I don't like what you posted there, because your response to Figarosmom was so insulting and condescending. And you're doubling down on contempt for people who don't like remixes.

Someone who remixes music is really little different from someone who'd chop up a short story, rearrange it in places, put some parts in a giant font with others in a font so small they're nearly invisible, and call it art.

Or who'd take a painting, rearrange it, and add a filter or lots of different filters to all or some of it.

You'd be unlikely to find very many readers and art lovers applauding the changes.

I'll make exceptions for remixes done if there were audio problems with the original for one reason or another, though those can be bad, too, if ego's involved and the remix just messes up the original release.

But if someone wants a different version of a song, it's much more creative, and creatively honest, to record a cover than do a remix ripping off the original.

the poster that their music posted needs to sound the original mix/version (implying that what they posted is unacceptable) nor have I called another OP's musical post 'elevator music', which for me is a real slag-off.

As for music remixes in general, they are both extremely common and often quite popular, at least in the real world, ie not DU.

permission to remix the songs there, though he said in one video description that a video he did ripping off CCR has been removed from Soundcloud for copyright reasons.

But some remixing ripoff artists have found and encouraged ways to evade automatic detection:

https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduction/comments/57tg1k/uploading_remixes_on_soundcloud/?rdt=55050

They know what they're doing is wrong. They want to do it anyway. They don't want to bother with asking permission. And they sometimes try to make money from ripping off other people's work.

There's nothing admirable about that.

You've posted a lot of remixes here. Were very many (or any) of them official, done with the artists' or labels' permission? If so, they probably said so in the video description.

Reddit thread on a lot of remixes being illegal:

https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduction/comments/1fn0ynt/legality_of_unofficial_remixes

And that problem is on top of the lack of real creativity. Which again makes it an inferior form of music compared to the original or a cover.

re-mixers/producers, your efforts to push your aesthetics unto me in an agressively judgemental manner, as well as you attempt to gatekeep artistic output.

Here is further information on Christopher Gubisch, the producer behind the video I posted. He creates a lot of original compositions that have been used by large media/news/advert firms:

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other people's hits, especially if it might have been done without permission.

That's too often simply trading on the name and reputation of the famous artist whose work is being remixed. It's using their work to draw attention to the remixer. I saw social media posts from remixers who viewed remixing as advertising for work as mixers or producers.

I just found some videos on YouTube for that short film, 39 Pounds of Love, and the snippets of the score that I could hear were excellent. Which makes Gube choosing to do derivative work like remixes of classics more puzzling.

And with Ramble On, as I said, his remixing lost what made the song a classic in the first place. For instance, the intro buries one of the best basslines John Paul Jones ever played.

Gube mangled the opening of that track so badly. He took a powerful song, definitely one of Zeppelin's best, and turned it into what most rock fans would consider elevator music, burying it in mush.

It's as if someone took one of Hemingway's cleanly written stories and buried it in poetic descriptions and meandering asides and called it a remix.

I doubt Gube would have wanted the same thing done to the score he wrote for that film.

Now, if he had wanted to do a cover of Ramble On with that arrangement, it would still have been bad, but at least it wouldn't have dragged Led Zeppelin's stunning musicianship into the mess.

Remixes tend to show a lack of respect for the original (since they're supposedly an improvement in some way), while at the same time trying to evoke what the original evoked. Doesn't work. And the more a person loved the original, the worse the remix will sound, because what can still be heard of the original is a inevitable reminder of how bad the remix is by comparison. At least a cover doesn't force that comparison into one track.

And I gave you an opinion. Obviously you don't agree.

No where in my opinion did I disparage you personally, I just said the remix was a very simplistic rip off. I.e. elevator music.

And by the way my supermarket plays Zeppelin and they are far from " lit".