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UTUSN

(76,394 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:51 PM 10 hrs ago

Vivien LEIGH as Cleopatra - no idea whether this is actual or created

Nor am I any particular cultist of anybody - even of NIETZCHE who said he didn't want followerers, so am I a follower non-follower of his? But before YouTube I had images of known historical or celebrity humanoids, and YouTube in the past few years has set about demolishing or otherwise built-up just about everybody. "Changing *paradigms* " of humanoids or events.

So obviously, Ms LEIGH was Scarlett and a dash of The Roman Spring of Mrs. Stone and Ship of Fools. Never saw the fabled Streetcar whatever. But in YouTube-land, much is made of her very, *very* complicated physical and mental health and symptomatic love life.

But look at this face. I never accepted Teh Elizabeth or other glimpses from silent screen as "Cleopatra" - too artifically "perfect" but look at this creature's face:

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rsdsharp

(11,568 posts)
1. She was in 1945's Caesar and Cleopatra with Claude Rains.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:58 PM
10 hrs ago

It was shot in Technicolor.

UTUSN

(76,394 posts)
2. All those lives (hers, Larry, MANY others) were so wild and "free" and tortured.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:02 PM
10 hrs ago

YouTube has led me to un-judging others and perchance acceptance I ain't so bad after all, am a pittance.


*** Tip: Don't look at BRANDO. Or anybody else.




Jeebo

(2,540 posts)
3. That might be a screen test for a role Vivien Leigh didn't get.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:17 PM
9 hrs ago

Or maybe for a role in a short that she did get. Or maybe, as you suggest, it could be AI. If you would like to know, go to imdb.com and read up on the subject.

My favorite Cleopatra movie is the early 1930s black-and-white version with Claudette Colbert. I like it much more than that 1960s big-budget wide-screen version with Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton. It's a talkie, though, not a silent film.

— Ron

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0024991/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_7_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_Cleop

UTUSN

(76,394 posts)
4. Thanks. I'm really a single-issue type - like her/this *only*. Not "Cleopatra" or other versions per se.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:27 PM
9 hrs ago

When somebody asks whether I like "Country" or whatever, it's complicated: I like this and that other "Country" song and pop-European and Classical, lots of stuff but NOT jazz or rhythm based stuff.

Single things grab me. For example, a couple of months ago I was grabbed by this thing by nutcase Salvador DALI. Somebody here took it to mean I wanted to look into - at depth - "Surrealism" or even just him/DALI (a total creep). ------------ Uh, nope. This one thing was all for me.



No DALI or Surrealism for me. I don't know how to explain what grabbed me about this thing.

*** P.S., now am thinking the toes should have been curled in agony like the fingers - or in "ascencion" was the cringing over?




Donkees

(33,314 posts)
8. Re: ''now am thinking the toes should have been curled in agony like the fingers''
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 07:30 AM
1 hr ago

The fingers symbolize the fimbriae at the end of fallopian tubes. The perspective of the bulging body symbolizes the uterus, surrounded by an egg. Spiritual rebirth, ascension.

UTUSN

(76,394 posts)
6. Thanks, will make time. YouTube has put me on a 15-20 mins length for every attention span.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 01:08 AM
8 hrs ago

This is to say that YouTube is on me during *all waking hours* - like in the backround, but I don't watch long form things - certainly not movies. Basically history/biography - iow, all *GOSSIP* - history/biography is GOSSIP. Gosh, YouTube has torn down all heroes for me, exposed everybody's sick lives. And with the Greek/Roman/Egyptians, has demolished "Christianity" (I was already agnostic or something), but turns out the so-called apostle Paul took over and invented the whole shebang, well I'll stop here.









Niagara

(11,161 posts)
7. Fun Fact that's NOT Vivien Leigh related but Cleopatra related
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 07:24 AM
1 hr ago

Marilyn Monroe posed for photographer Richard Avedon in 1958 wearing a dress inspired by the one worn by actress Theda Bara as Cleopatra in a 1917 film. Richard Avedon had to photograph Marilyn and recreate images of five famous actresses from the 1930s. Theda Bara was one of them. Once the photos were published, Avedon lost the negatives. He finally found them among some books during a house move in 2000.





Marilyn was interested in serious roles and Twentieth Century Fox kept putting her in dumb blonde roles. She hated those roles.


Anyway, some of Marilyn poses as other actresses included Jean Harlow, Clara Bow, Marlene Dietrich and Lillian Russell. Here's a link if anyone wants to view these photos.

http://www.marilynmonroe.ca/camera/galleries/avedon/index.htm


I found this AI video on YouTube that expresses how great of a Cleopatra she could have been given the chance.




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