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highplainsdem

(58,403 posts)
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 12:09 AM Tuesday

Oasis borrowed from T.Rex's Get It On for Cigarettes & Alcohol, but rocked much harder. Earthshakingly harder.

Video comparing the start of both studio tracks:




Cigarettes & Alcohol was the 4th single from their first album in 1994, then the fastest-selling debut in UK history:




And this banger still gets the greatest response from their fans, shaking stadiums, and noticeable at a distance - as it was in Edinburgh several weeks ago.

https://www.aol.co.uk/entertainment/oasis-gig-murrayfield-more-ground-121950810.html

https://www.bgs.ac.uk/news/oasis-revealed-as-scottish-capitals-most-seismic-concert/



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highplainsdem

(58,403 posts)
2. Reply posted in GD by johnp3907: 1. Marc Bolan cast a big big shadow!
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 12:23 AM
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Compare these two:





Also these two:





The reply above was originally at https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220685585#post1

highplainsdem

(58,403 posts)
5. The term was first used before Oasis had that huge instant success. It never really fit them.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:04 AM
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Article about how the term came into use:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/stuart-maconie-britpop-anniversary-more-3390694

And from Manchester came the ultimate lads, Oasis, whose version of Britpop was more blokey, less arty and whose first album entered the charts at No?1 and became the fastest selling debut in history.

Guitar music was no longer the realm of the awkward indie kids.

Oasis fans were labourers, office workers, football lads in replica tops, much like the band.

Only three years after playing to a few dozen kids in Manchester, the band were playing to a quarter of a million people at Knebworth in 1996.


Oasis never fit with the others. Their rock lineage was Beatles > Sex Pistols > Stone Roses. It was ludicrous to compare them to Blur.

highplainsdem

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8. The Beatles, Sex Pistols and Stone Roses are the bands they mention most. But you're right that glam rock,
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:26 AM
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both Bowie and Bolan, influenced Oasis. Bowie and Bolan's harder rock music did, anyway - not the costumes and theatre.

speak easy

(12,400 posts)
9. Ditching the glam costumes
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:29 AM
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was definitely a improvement. Noel (but I’m not sure about Liam) would not be seen dead in the like.

highplainsdem

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10. Considering that Liam's standard uniform is a parka, baggy jeans and athletic shoes, I don't think he'd've
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 02:24 PM
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been caught dead in glam costumes, either.

speak easy

(12,400 posts)
6. You can't copyright a rhythm sequence
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:07 AM
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The principal riff is all one note, and the next three notes = 12 bar blues.

LudwigPastorius

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11. Something in that live clip I don't understand...
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:08 PM
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Why, when the song started, was almost the entire crowd turned with their backs to the stage?

highplainsdem

(58,403 posts)
12. That's the Poznan, which was started by a Polish football (soccer) team and adopted by the Manchester
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:35 PM
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team supported by Oasis.

From Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pozna%C5%84

The Poznań or Grecque (the Greek) is a form of sporting celebration that involves supporters standing with their backs to the pitch, linking arms side-by-side and jumping on the spot in unison. It is mostly associated with supporters of football club Lech Poznań in Poland, although it has been performed by fans of many football clubs throughout the world such as Manchester City in England and Charlotte FC in the United States. Its first use is thought to have been as a protest against club management while still supporting the team.

The Poznań celebration involves the fans turning their backs to the pitch, joining arms and jumping up and down in unison.[1] In Poland, and among many fans across Europe, it is not called "the Poznań" but is known as a "Grecque", and it is performed by fans of many teams.[2] Despite initially failing to impress Manchester City fans when it was done during the teams' meeting in the UEFA Europa League group stage on 21 October 2010, it was subsequently adopted by City supporters during a game early the following month.[3] The activity was coined "The Poznań" by Manchester City fans, in homage to the club that inspired them to celebrate in this way. The Poznań was briefly adopted by other English football supporters, notably those of Leicester City after their clash with Manchester City in the third round of the FA Cup in January 2011,[4] and is referred to by English football fans as "doing the Poznań".[5]

Initially, the supporters group of Australian club Western Sydney Wanderers, The Red and Black Bloc, performed it in the 80th minute of matches to represent the first football match played in Western Sydney in 1880. Subsequently, this has grown into an all stadium celebration.[6]

The celebration has also been used at events such as concerts. During Oasis's Live '25 Tour, the band asked fans in attendance to do the Poznań during performances of the song "Cigarettes & Alcohol".[7]


It's a wonder Oasis can get so many of their fans to take their eyes off the stage.

And honestly, there's no real reason to ask them to turn their backs to the stage, if this originated "as a protest against club management while still supporting the team" since they're not protesting Oasis management.

But Liam's been getting most of them to turn around anyway.

The Poznan wasn't adopted in Manchester until after Oasis broke up in 2009, so this tour was their first chance to use it.

But their fans have been pogoing like mad to that song since the '90s. Knebworth, August 11, 1996:

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