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Marthe48

(21,792 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:23 PM Sep 4

ai is stupid

Last edited Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:57 PM - Edit history (1)

I asked what the average age of rock stars performing concerts and got this answer from ai:

ai: There isn't a single "average age" for rock stars performing concerts, as some artists are in their prime in their 20s and 30s while others, like the Rolling Stones and Paul McCartney, continue to tour into their 70s and beyond. A significant number of the world's biggest live artists are in their 50s and older, driving up the average age in the live music industry.

Averaging means taking a variety of numbers, adding them up, and dividing the sum by how many numbers you used. If I add 20,30,50 and 70, the numbers ai spewed out, the total is 170. I divide by 4 and get 42.5. ai failed my question. Oh well, I feel smart

Edited typo (20,30,50,70)

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hedda_foil

(16,829 posts)
1. Your question left room for interpretation that the AI ran with.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:30 PM
Sep 4

I edited your question to make the language more precise because they're just computer programs. Here's my question and the answer you wanted:

Q: What is the mathematical average of the ages of rock stars performing concerts?

AI Overview
Based on concert revenue reports from 2019, the average age of rock stars and other top-grossing musicians on tour is around 53 and rising. This number is heavily influenced by the continued touring success of "legacy" artists who have been performing for decades.

Factors influencing the high average age

Established success: Older, classic rock acts like the Rolling Stones, U2, and Metallica have a massive and dedicated fanbase that can afford higher ticket prices, ensuring their tours are consistently profitable.
Older fans: The fanbases for these legacy acts are also aging and tend to have more disposable income to spend on high-priced concert tickets.

Statistical impact: The presence of a few very old, highly successful touring artists can significantly skew the average age upward, overshadowing younger rock acts. For example, in 2019, artists like Elton John (72) and Fleetwood Mac (with members in their 70s) were among the top 10 touring acts.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,329 posts)
2. Smart? You made a simple basic arithmetic error. You failed addition.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:33 PM
Sep 4

20 + 20 + 50 + 70 = 160, not 170.

Further, the answer given does not contain 20, 50 or 70.

Marthe48

(21,792 posts)
4. I missed a typo
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 01:00 PM
Sep 4

and changed one of the 20s to 30, so 170.

The ai response I noted mentioned 20s and 30s, some rockers in their 50s and some over 70. I used those number to make an example of how to average. I'll be sure to go get an eye test, and then return to 4th grade math.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,329 posts)
6. Proof-reading is smart. Double-checking is smart. Understanding that averages are weighted is smart.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 01:15 PM
Sep 4

So the AI mentioned some decades. Decades are much broader than ages.

It did not provide anything for you to assume those decades should be equal-weighted. When it mentioned those decades it mentioned them. It did not spew out vast quantities (one key connotation of "spew" ) or blurt them randomly in a spotty uncoordinated way (another key connotation of "spew" ). I think that you are approaching this with confirmation bias, as indicated by your use of "spew" in a pejorative way.

There may be many people, different numbers of people in those decades. Simply adding up the decades with no account for the number of their members is a very inadequate approximation or model of the reality.

Your result of 42.5 is not an indication of stupidity on the part of the AI. It is an indication of the inadequacy of your model. This is proven by the evidence quickly provided by other posters here.

If you want to make a case for "AI" being stupid, you have to dig up actual data, actual information and then process it in the way you ask an AI to process something. Rolling Stone magazine did the math.

sl8

(16,827 posts)
3. Which AI did you use? Google's says "53 years old", based on a Rolling Stone article.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:38 PM
Sep 4

Searching Google for "average age of rock stars performing concerts" (without the quotes) yielded this AI Overview:

While the prime age for a rock musician can range from their late teens to early 30s, the average age of performing rock stars is significantly higher, with a Rolling Stone report from 2019 placing the average age of the world's biggest live artists at 53. This is due to the enduring careers of legacy artists like Bruce Springsteen (69) and the Rolling Stones (75), whose consistent presence in top-grossing tours drives up the average age for performing rock stars.

[...]



The source Google gave for that paragraph was this article in Rolling Stone:

https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/features/average-age-biggest-live-artists-53-rising-863337/

The Average Age of the World’s Biggest Live Artists Is 53 — and Rising
Meanwhile, the average age of the biggest recorded music acts is moving in the other direction. What's going on?

By Tim Ingham

July 26, 2019

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