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Rizen

(858 posts)
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 09:52 PM Apr 13

This is a pet peeve of mine:

When people mispronounce the starting syllable vowel sound of a word and substitute it with "um". It's not "um-mediately", it's "im-mediately". It's not "um-ergency", it's e-mergency". Now that I've said it you'll hear people do this all the time. :/

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This is a pet peeve of mine: (Original Post) Rizen Apr 13 OP
Are you positive True Dough Apr 13 #1
Umpossible MLAA Apr 13 #2
She was clear that it is her umpet's umpeeve. Irish_Dem Apr 13 #3
Ha! Rizen Apr 14 #10
Two thoughts PJMcK Apr 13 #4
Intellectualism... Rizen Apr 14 #11
"pilgrams"? niyad Apr 16 #18
Sorry, typo PJMcK Apr 16 #23
The line is a movie quote PJMcK Apr 16 #24
I had fogotten that line, thanks. niyad Apr 16 #26
My peeve is similar -- when people say "tuh" instead of "to" Ponietz Apr 13 #5
Yes! Rizen Apr 14 #12
What's interesting is that linguists have been watching this trend for years LearnedHand Apr 13 #6
I am with you on that. My top three: Liberry instead of library; realator instead of realtor; LoisB Apr 13 #7
"...irregardless (which I understand has now become an accepted word)." 3catwoman3 Apr 16 #28
Thank you! Not ever by me either. LoisB Apr 16 #34
How else would you pronounce the last name "Uumellmahaye"? LudwigPastorius Apr 14 #8
the LATEST one for me Skittles Apr 14 #9
Thank you! Rizen Apr 14 #13
and don't even get me started on I SEEN Skittles Apr 14 #14
One of my favourite, rather glaring, examples of poor grammar is "me and niyad Apr 16 #22
This one particularly grates on my nerves, especially because... 3catwoman3 Apr 16 #29
yes, I ave heard that one, as well. screeeeeeech! niyad Apr 16 #33
I can handle, barely, " 'coz" in spoken English, or indicated dialogue in print. niyad Apr 16 #19
What sounds like "acrost" for across. mwmisses4289 Apr 15 #15
My husband, who grew up on Long Island, also says that. 3catwoman3 Apr 16 #31
People that don't speak proper English really annoy me. n/t HorsesflyHigh Apr 15 #16
People"who". Thing /object "that". niyad Apr 16 #20
+1 Rizen Apr 16 #39
Respectfully... LuckyCharms Apr 16 #17
I think we is on the same umspectrum. multigraincracker Apr 16 #30
There is an ad I see periodically on youtube that starts by announcing niyad Apr 16 #21
JEW-LER-REE Skittles Apr 16 #25
That one, as well. niyad Apr 16 #27
Me, too. 3catwoman3 Apr 16 #35
I got a bit of a schooling on pronunciation Skittles Apr 16 #38
Hmmm I think do that sometimes. I make my own so it's a word I use. electric_blue68 Thursday #41
no LER in there Skittles Thursday #42
"Pitcher" instead of "Picture". Diamond_Dog Apr 16 #32
And "meer" instead of mir-ror. 3catwoman3 Apr 16 #36
And incorrect apostrophes to indicate plurals, and incorrect use, niyad Apr 16 #37
"excetera" and "expresso" pnwest Apr 16 #40
Mao-in instead of mountain. Runninggggg (hard g) Clouds Passing Thursday #43
A Way With Words 😃 Annie Moosee Friday #44

Irish_Dem

(68,464 posts)
3. She was clear that it is her umpet's umpeeve.
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 10:06 PM
Apr 13

The same thing bothers my little umdoggie too.

PJMcK

(23,480 posts)
4. Two thoughts
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 10:14 PM
Apr 13

Last edited Wed Apr 16, 2025, 02:21 PM - Edit history (1)

First, I'm with you. It's jarring when I hear people mispronounce words or worse, use them inappropriately. To me, it illustrates a weak mind that doesn't know its native language.

My list of offenses is long but a few of my pet peeves include:

- Inverting "scan" and "skim." To skim something means to glance at its surface, (skim milk has the layer of fats removed leaving the non-fat milk). To scan something means to look at it in great detail, (a scanner copies things at 300 dpi or greater). Too often people will say, "I didn't have time to read it in detail so I just scanned it." That's an illogical statement.

- Inverting "infer" and "imply." I imply something and you infer it from my implication. Too often, people will use them interchangeably.

- Using the expression, "It begs the question..." This does not mean it suggests a question. According to Merriam-Webster, the phrase actually means, "To beg a question means to assume the truth of what you are trying to prove, often leading to circular reasoning. In modern usage, it can also mean to prompt a specific question that needs to be answered." It's quite a difference!

Second, English is a bastardized language meaning it changes all the time. If you could be transported in time back to Elizabethan England, you probably wouldn't be able to hold a meaningful conversation with Shakespeare because the words and grammar were so substantially different as to be practically a foreign language. Words change all the time! Consider that a mere 30 years ago, the word "suck" was almost as offensive as "fuck." Today, it's used in serious conversations. Fascinating

You and I and a handful of others are the bulwark against the destruction of the English language. Meanwhile, Trump & Co. have turned words inside out and upside down ala Orwell's Newspeak.

Enjoy your week, Rizen. We are pilgrims in an unholy land!

Rizen

(858 posts)
11. Intellectualism...
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:18 PM
Apr 14

is a starving swan bobbing for scraps in the turbulent wake of society.

PJMcK

(23,480 posts)
24. The line is a movie quote
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 02:22 PM
Apr 16

It's from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Sean Connery and Harrison Ford go to Nazi Berlin and witness a book burning. Connery says the line to Ford.

LearnedHand

(4,610 posts)
6. What's interesting is that linguists have been watching this trend for years
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 11:04 PM
Apr 13

The schwa is that "lazy" vowel sound in English that happens with unstressed syllables. This is the "uh" sound you mentioned (as in "thuh" instead of "the&quot . It may be annoying but in all fairness language -- including phonemes -- are morphing all the time, and collapsing English vowels to uh is very natural.

LoisB

(10,182 posts)
7. I am with you on that. My top three: Liberry instead of library; realator instead of realtor;
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 11:25 PM
Apr 13

Febuary or Febarary instead of February.

Don't get me started on irregardless (which I understand has now become an accepted word).

3catwoman3

(26,543 posts)
28. "...irregardless (which I understand has now become an accepted word)."
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 04:36 PM
Apr 16

Not by me. Not ever.

Skittles

(163,560 posts)
9. the LATEST one for me
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 12:45 AM
Apr 14

people saying - and writing - CAUSE instead of BECAUSE

BECAUSE IT LOOKS FUCKING IGNORANT!

niyad

(123,320 posts)
22. One of my favourite, rather glaring, examples of poor grammar is "me and
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 02:04 PM
Apr 16

him went. . ." , heard when I was in high school (in the last millenium) and, unfortunately, never forgotten.

3catwoman3

(26,543 posts)
29. This one particularly grates on my nerves, especially because...
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 04:47 PM
Apr 16

...people only do it with compound subjects. You never hear anyone say, "Him went to the movies," or, "Her went on vacation," or "Me's going out to dinner."

Even my husband and our 30-something sons have started doing this. I want to smack them all upside the head, as the saying goes. I'm resisting with all my might the urge to correct them, but I'm going to cave someday, I just know it.

I have, to my great horror, heard people make a possessive out of "I" - John and I's vacation," and so forth.

niyad

(123,320 posts)
19. I can handle, barely, " 'coz" in spoken English, or indicated dialogue in print.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 01:41 PM
Apr 16

Amoung my many pet peeves is "of" instead of "have". ."would of", could of", etc.

Nails on chalkboard is almost Iess painful.

mwmisses4289

(918 posts)
15. What sounds like "acrost" for across.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 12:54 AM
Apr 15

Husband's family says it and it drives me bonkers. Seems to be a Midwest thing (Indiana/Illinois), his family is from that area.

3catwoman3

(26,543 posts)
31. My husband, who grew up on Long Island, also says that.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 04:48 PM
Apr 16

And he pronounces the "t" in often.

Bugs me.

LuckyCharms

(19,941 posts)
17. Respectfully...
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 12:18 PM
Apr 16

I am of a different mind set.

I don't care about typos, and I generally do not care how people pronounce words.

I mispronounce words all of the time. In my case, it is because I learn new words via reading, and I don't always look up the pronunciation of them. So I will say the word incorrectly verbally, and I appreciate it when someone helps me learn how to say it correctly.

When some people speak, their minds are working ahead of voice, and this causes them to mispronounce a word.

Some people stutter. That can cause words to be said incorrectly.

Some have legitimate speech impediments.

For me, as long as I have an idea of what a person is talking about, in most cases, I won't correct them, and I won't be bothered about how they speak.

Also, there are regional dialect differences.

I pronounce "cement" as "sment".

Potato as po-tayda.

Tomato as toe-mayda.

Capicola as gabbagool (sort of...I say capicola so fast, that it sounds like gabbagool a little). In that case, it's like how my Italian family says it. Most Americans say "manicotti". I pronounce it as ManiGOT, because that is how I learned to say it.

I think language variations are very interesting.



multigraincracker

(35,467 posts)
30. I think we is on the same umspectrum.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 04:48 PM
Apr 16

If the message is conveyed, it is correct.

Mom was an English teacher and gave up on me.

niyad

(123,320 posts)
21. There is an ad I see periodically on youtube that starts by announcing
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 01:58 PM
Apr 16

"five words you pronounce wrong two years before your brain starts shutting down". I never get past that part before I hit the "skip" button, because I keep thinking, "so many people pronounce so many things incorrectly, how would one ever know?"

Skittles

(163,560 posts)
25. JEW-LER-REE
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 03:59 PM
Apr 16

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I hear that even in COMMERCIALS for JEW-EL-REE (or JEWL-REE)

3catwoman3

(26,543 posts)
35. Me, too.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 05:02 PM
Apr 16

I strongly suspect I must have been an English teacher or editor in a past life.

I often used to hear parents mispronounce the over-the-counter med Dimetapp as Dynetab. No "n" and no "b," so that was always a puzzle.

Skittles

(163,560 posts)
38. I got a bit of a schooling on pronunciation
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 05:34 PM
Apr 16

when I corrected my English mum saying al-u- MIN-i-um, she pointed out, "Well it's MY BLOODY LANGUAGE, isn't it?"

electric_blue68

(20,971 posts)
41. Hmmm I think do that sometimes. I make my own so it's a word I use.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:47 AM
Thursday

Looked it up, either:

jool ree

or

jool wul ree

Always stress on first syllable

niyad

(123,320 posts)
37. And incorrect apostrophes to indicate plurals, and incorrect use,
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 05:13 PM
Apr 16

or not knowing the difference between a possessive and a contraction.

Although, to be fair, some autocorrect/spellcheck programs are atrocious.

Annie Moosee

(130 posts)
44. A Way With Words 😃
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 12:19 PM
Friday

This is one of my favorite shows on my local public radio station. Every week they take calls featuring questions regarding where a word or expression comes from, and how it got here, plus discussions in spelling, pronunciation, and use.

A somewhat running joke is "What's the stakes in this bet" when one person says one thing is the standard use and the other disagrees. (like "dinner and a movie" or agreeing to do dishes for a year.)

I recommend all fellow word nerds and lovers of languages to check it out!

Heck, check it out even if you hate grammar and spelling, because the two hosts have a wonderful, friendly energy, and are a joy to listen to.

Happy Friday folks!

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