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Uncle Joe

(63,705 posts)
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 09:20 PM Sunday

Epstein Gave NY Times Journalist Tips About Trump. Why Did They Never Get Reported?

Exchanges about Trump between a reporter and Epstein raise questions about what the New York Times knew and when.

Donald Trump and financier Jeffrey Epstein attend a Victoria’s Secret event in New York City on April 9, 1997. Photo: Thomas Concordia/Getty Images

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In the emails, Thomas tipped off Epstein about inquiries by other reporters and claimed to have vouched for Epstein, whom he said he called “one hell of a guy.” In one exchange, Thomas coached Epstein on how to repair his reputation.

The relationship was a two-way street. Epstein, who died in a Manhattan federal jail in 2019 awaiting trial on charges of sex trafficking, was reportedly a valued source for Thomas. In the emails released Wednesday, one of the topics Epstein fed information to Thomas was about Donald Trump’s allegedly lecherous behavior. In the exchanges — through his trademark style of lowercase letters and abundant typos — Epstein alludes to Trump’s predilection for young women.

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Little Came to Light

In total, the exchanges about Trump between Thomas and Epstein amount to a series of tips about the president’s behavior. And these tips came from a known associate of the president, a convicted pedophile. Little of the information given to Thomas, however, ever saw the light of day — not in Thomas’s reporting, not in the New York Times, and not in any other outlets. The details are only now emerging with the release of Thomas’s cozy emails with Epstein.

“It would be useful for readers who have become aware of this to know more from the Times about who knew what, when,” said Margaret Sullivan, a media critic and a former public editor at The New York Times. “I think it’s really important for reporters to have their main constituency in mind, and that is the public.”

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https://theintercept.com/2025/11/14/epstein-new-york-times-trump/
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Epstein Gave NY Times Journalist Tips About Trump. Why Did They Never Get Reported? (Original Post) Uncle Joe Sunday OP
Just NYT doing NYT things. RockRaven Sunday #1
Blackmail as Supplemental Income Kid Berwyn Yesterday #2
Why is the reporter's first name never mentioned in this excerpt? ificandream 23 hrs ago #3
I think Margaret Sullivan knew they fired him, Uncle Joe 22 hrs ago #4
And how do you know that? ificandream 20 hrs ago #5
I think she knew Thomas had been fired because of her journalistic background, connections to the N.Y. Times, Uncle Joe 19 hrs ago #6
You can't assume she knew ... ificandream 15 hrs ago #7
I thought she would know about his firing because it was history, Uncle Joe 14 hrs ago #8
A reporter will repeat that past information in stories. ificandream 3 hrs ago #9

RockRaven

(18,424 posts)
1. Just NYT doing NYT things.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 09:38 PM
Sunday

If anyone believes whatever explanation they gin up for themselves (assuming they even bother), I've got a bridge to sell ya.

ificandream

(11,553 posts)
3. Why is the reporter's first name never mentioned in this excerpt?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 02:06 PM
23 hrs ago

But the problem here is bigger than this excerpt. Reading through the complete "story", this is a very poorly written article. For one, the fact that The Intercept is the apparent source isn't stated until deep into the article in the 15th paragraph. It should have been the first paragraph. That's one of the first things you learn in journalism school.

But the full story in the Intercept also leaves out a very important fact. As a New York Times story reported in the following paragraph:

Also included in the email release is correspondence between Mr. Epstein and Landon Thomas Jr., a New York Times reporter who left the paper in early 2019. A spokeswoman for The Times said Mr. Thomas had left the company “after editors discovered his failure to abide by our ethical standards.”


In other words, the Times didn't condone his "journalism." They fired him. As they should have. And Thomas' firing was well-deserved. However, The Intercept seemed a little too quick to condemn the Times when they couldn't even get the full story straight.

Uncle Joe

(63,705 posts)
4. I think Margaret Sullivan knew they fired him,
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 02:52 PM
22 hrs ago

and I found her critical question (s) to be of profound importance.

What did the N.Y. Times know and when?

I keep thinking if the National Enquirer playing "catch and kill."

ificandream

(11,553 posts)
5. And how do you know that?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 05:27 PM
20 hrs ago

And if she knew Thomas was fired, that just might have answered the question about what the Times knew and when. I'm sorry but this is a lousy story.

Uncle Joe

(63,705 posts)
6. I think she knew Thomas had been fired because of her journalistic background, connections to the N.Y. Times,
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:19 PM
19 hrs ago

Washington Post, and the quote from Sullivan by it's language seem contemporary to me or at least after the fact whereas Thomas the author/non-author was fired months before Epstein was arrested and died in prison.

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“It would be useful for readers who have become aware of this to know more from the Times about who knew what, when,” said Margaret Sullivan, a media critic and a former public editor at The New York Times. “I think it’s really important for reporters to have their main constituency in mind, and that is the public.”

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Later in the thread, Landon asked Epstein if he too had been questioned about his relationship to the GOP presidential hopeful.

“are you still getting calls from reporters re Trump?” Thomas asked.

“everyone except the NYT it seems ” Epstein replied.

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https://theintercept.com/2025/11/14/epstein-new-york-times-trump/

I'm not a professional journalist so I can't argue on those merits so much as connecting dots.

ificandream

(11,553 posts)
7. You can't assume she knew ...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:26 PM
15 hrs ago

She was a media critic and former editor. She would know that is vital information. There’s no clue in her quotes that she knew. She would have said so. She wouldn’t have kept something that important quiet.

Uncle Joe

(63,705 posts)
8. I thought she would know about his firing because it was history,
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 11:14 PM
14 hrs ago

not his emails or communications with Epstein.

ificandream

(11,553 posts)
9. A reporter will repeat that past information in stories.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 09:42 AM
3 hrs ago

That's why you see summaries of past developments at the bottom of stories. Granted, they sometimes get cut for lack of space, but it's traditional to do that. Given that this was a website and not a print publication, there was no space problem for the writer.

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