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Passages

(3,604 posts)
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:55 PM Tuesday

Vance, Trump falsely claim left-wing violence outpaces the right as DOJ deletes report stating otherwise

BY Joseph Konig Nationwide
PUBLISHED 5:48 PM ET Sep. 16, 2025

In the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance — as well as senior administration officials, members of Congress and powerful allies outside of government — have painted left-wing violence as one of the greatest threats to the United States, as they have announced their intentions to intensify the federal government crackdown on their political enemies.

“In a country of 330 million people, you can, of course, find one person of a given political persuasion justifying this or that or almost anything, but the data is clear: People on the left are much likelier to defend and celebrate political violence. This is not a both-sides problem,” Vance said near the conclusion of his time guest-hosting Kirk’s show on Monday. “While our side of the aisle certainly has its crazies, it is a statistical fact that most of the lunatics in American politics today are proud members of the far left.”

But repeated insistences by Trump, Vance and others that left-wing political violence is far more dangerous of a threat than right-wing violence is contradicted by years of data and academic study, including by a report the Justice Department removed from its website in the days following Kirk’s killing.

Vance's office pointed to a single YouGov poll conducted in the immediate aftermath of the shooting last week that found 16% of liberals believe it is "usually or always acceptable" to feel joy after the deaths of political opponents, including "24% of those who say their ideology is very liberal and 10% who say they are liberal but not very liberal. That compares to 4% of conservatives and 7% of moderates."

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/me/maine/politics/2025/09/16/trump-vance-charlie-kirk-left-wing-violence-deleted-doj-report

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Vance, Trump falsely claim left-wing violence outpaces the right as DOJ deletes report stating otherwise (Original Post) Passages Tuesday OP
We ALL (even many magats, I suspect) Know What It Means When Their Lips Are Moving The Roux Comes First Tuesday #1
Replacing all those burned pants must be incredibly expensive. Dave Bowman Tuesday #2
Binary OC375 Tuesday #3
Here is the report at the Internet Archive usonian Tuesday #4
Thank you! Passages Tuesday #6
Desperately trying to change facts pfitz59 Tuesday #5

The Roux Comes First

(1,840 posts)
1. We ALL (even many magats, I suspect) Know What It Means When Their Lips Are Moving
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:03 PM
Tuesday

They're lying again.

Dave Bowman

(5,830 posts)
2. Replacing all those burned pants must be incredibly expensive.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:13 PM
Tuesday

Even more so for the bearded clown since he's not as wealthy as the rotten mango, yet.

OC375

(268 posts)
3. Binary
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:18 PM
Tuesday

Violence is red or blue. We must assign blame to one or the other, for the children. It’s worked great so far.

usonian

(20,501 posts)
4. Here is the report at the Internet Archive
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:31 PM
Tuesday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220647984

copied here

Thanks to CousinIT
I looked up the paper.

What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism
https://web.archive.org/web/20250911012550/https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/what-nij-research-tells-us-about-domestic-terrorism
By golly, here's a 230 K PDF
https://web.archive.org/web/20250911165140/https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/306123.pdf

This worked fine for me with Firefox.
The PDF is just a nicely formatted version of the archived page, which you may "Print to PDF" with your browser. Same info.

pfitz59

(11,855 posts)
5. Desperately trying to change facts
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:44 PM
Tuesday

to suit their bullshit narrative. As all good despots do.

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