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pat_k

(11,770 posts)
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 03:37 AM Monday

Charlie Kirk's Killing and Our Poisonous Internet


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The only thing that can be said conclusively about Mr. Robinson, at this moment, is that he was a chronically online, white American male.
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Today’s internet for most Americans, but especially for those like Mr. Robinson, who came of age on social and streaming platforms, is an immeasurably potent vibes machine. One powered by a complex fuel of negative emotions — hatred, rage, hopelessness, nihilism, grievance, cynicism, paranoia, discontent and addiction. It’s a machine more than capable of constructing false realities and corroding our lived experiences.

Intent, meaning and sincerity are near-valueless concepts in this realm, while things like knowledge, understanding and good faith — critical elements to any healthy public sphere — have been gradually distorted beyond the point of recognition, or abandoned completely.
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The combative and rage-bait style that Mr. Kirk pioneered has become the dominant mode for the right. And it’s probably more accurate to say this is how many young Americans as a whole exist on the internet today, trolling and provoking anyone who crosses their paths.
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That his killer might have been in pursuit of a similar moment of viral conflict is a grim encapsulation of the nightmare cesspit we’ve entered.

The internet machine is now operating out in the open, in front of everyone’s eyes, and as long as that continues unchecked, our ability to make meaning of the world will continue to deteriorate. Empathy, as a human quality, will be snuffed out for those who are chronically online. The memes, and the memetic violence, will continue to proliferate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/opinion/charlie-kirk-shooting-internet.html?unlocked_article_code=1.mE8.d5PF.iLN9T5JrVT-f&smid=url-share
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Charlie Kirk's Killing and Our Poisonous Internet (Original Post) pat_k Monday OP
So, it's internet culture chelsea0011 Monday #1
we can do two things at once mike_c Monday #2
Yes! pat_k Monday #3

mike_c

(36,736 posts)
2. we can do two things at once
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 10:26 AM
Monday

The editorial suggests that toxic online environments can promote physical violence, including gun violence. I think it's likely true. If you let it, the internet can spew a regimen of polarizing grievance, day after day, month after month. Why else would investigators immediately search the online trail mass shooters leave, looking for a manifesto, or just the breadcrumbs of rage leading to violence?

pat_k

(11,770 posts)
3. Yes!
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 06:35 PM
Monday

We are dealing with a very young guy immersed in a culture that is far from straightforward.

We've seen the results of people going further and further down insane rabbit holes on the internet, but it is only with analyses I've come across in the wake of Kirk's murder that I think I'm begining to get a sense of how truly strange the world the chronically online occupy is. The layers of irony in particular are difficult to fathom. The effect of so much being some sort of coded communication creates a level of isolation from the "real world" that is quite frightening.



Vanity Fair: Groypers, Helldivers 2, Furries: What do the Messages Left by Charlie Kirk’s Alleged Killer Actually Mean?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/charlie-kirk-tyler-robinson-memes-meaning

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https://archive.ph/L8tPp

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