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Dulcinea

(9,139 posts)
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:24 AM Sep 9

Trump note to Epstein that he denies writing is released by Congress

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats on the House Oversight Committee released on Monday a sexually suggestive letter to Jeffrey Epstein purportedly signed by President Donald Trump, which he has denied.

The letter was included as part of a 50th birthday album compiled in 2003 for Epstein, a wealthy and well-connected financier who was once a friend of Trump’s. The full House committee on Monday night released a copy of the entire album, which bore names of some other prominent figures such as former President Bill Clinton and attorney Alan Dershowitz in a “friends” section, and included other letters with sexually provocative language.

Trump has said he did not write the letter or create the drawing of a curvaceous woman that surrounds the letter, and he filed a $10 billion lawsuit against The Wall Street Journal for earlier reporting on his link to the letter.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-epstein-letter-democrats-12c17f4c94cf14727062331526680ade

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Trump note to Epstein that he denies writing is released by Congress (Original Post) Dulcinea Sep 9 OP
The fact that the Estate of Jeffrey Epstein made these documents no_hypocrisy Sep 9 #1
Which is actually like a Hallmark card compared to the note from Epstein joking about Scrivener7 Sep 9 #2
MaddowBlog-Why the White House's unpersuasive pitch on the 'birthday book' seems so familiar LetMyPeopleVote Sep 9 #3

no_hypocrisy

(53,082 posts)
1. The fact that the Estate of Jeffrey Epstein made these documents
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:26 AM
Sep 9

available to Congress demonstrates Epstein's family has no problem seeking even a modicum of revenge against TSF.

Scrivener7

(57,184 posts)
2. Which is actually like a Hallmark card compared to the note from Epstein joking about
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:40 AM
Sep 9

Epstein selling Cankles a "fully depreciated" girl.

Think about that. Describing a girl as "fully depreciated." To me, that suggests a ruined child.

We know from Julie Brown, the Miami Herald reporter who originally broke the story in 2006, that all of the little girls were severely damaged by their abuse by Epstein, no matter whether they met him once or a hundred times. The girls' stories are full of suicide, drug abuse and ruin.

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,885 posts)
3. MaddowBlog-Why the White House's unpersuasive pitch on the 'birthday book' seems so familiar
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:58 PM
Sep 9

Republicans had to choose: acknowledge the letter as legitimate or insist that a Trump-signed document wasn’t actually a Trump-signed document.

There’s an approach to reality that says a Trump-signed document isn’t actually a Trump-signed document.

It’s the same approach that says job numbers are fake. And polls are fake. And election results are fake. And science is fake. And evidence of crimes is fake. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-09-09T13:13:45.110Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/white-house-jeffrey-epstein-birthday-book-donald-trump-rcna230024

Eight weeks later, the story took a rather dramatic turn. My MSNBC colleague Erum Salam reported on the new batch of material from the Epstein estate released by Democrats on the U.S. House Oversight Committee — including the contents of the so-called “birthday book.” From the report:

A copy of the book submitted to Congress (which was not reviewed by MSNBC) included a typed message, inside the outline of a woman’s torso, that read, in part, ‘A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.’ At the bottom of the message is a signature that appears to be Donald Trump’s.

The image looks like the one the Journal described in July.

BREAKING: House Oversight Committee Dems posted this photo of what appears to be Trump's birthday note to Epstein.

Trump previously denied the note and drawing's existence. MSNBC has not independently verified the drawing. The WH has denied the signature belongs to the president.

MSNBC (@msnbc.com) 2025-09-08T20:02:54.216Z


......White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt claimed that it’s “very clear” that Trump didn’t draw the figure or sign the letter. Other White House officials pushed the same line, and true to form, several congressional Republicans soon followed, echoing the new party line.

At face value, the pushback was — and is — difficult to take seriously. The signature on the letter resembles other documents from that era that Trump signed.

ThAt’a nOt TrUmP’s SiGnAtUrE www.wsj.com/us-news/law/...

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-09-08T21:38:29.142Z


For that matter, it’s difficult to imagine how the document in question could’ve been fabricated in the first place. As CNN’s Aaron Blake summarized, “The key fact here is that this comes from Epstein’s estate. In other words, for this letter to have been fake, someone would have had to plant it in Epstein’s possessions a long time ago, somehow.”.......

There’s a quote that’s often attributed to political theorist Hannah Arendt: “This constant lying is not aimed at making the people believe a lie, but at ensuring that no one believes anything anymore.” As it happens, Arendt didn’t actually say this (at least not exactly), but the quote resonates because of its salience:

Trump obviously tries to get people to believe lies all the time, but nearly as often, the president and his allies try to get people to give up on the idea that facts exist. With too many Americans, these tactics are effective, which helps explain why they’ve become so common.
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