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erronis

(21,291 posts)
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 11:55 AM Aug 26

The Economic Myths Supporting The Existence Of Billionaires -- Ed Walker - Emptywheel

https://www.emptywheel.net/2025/08/23/the-economic-myths-supporting-the-existence-of-billionaires/

This post contains links to other posts in this series.

I started this series by identifying the major causes of the problems we face with the MAGA movement spawned by Trump and glommed onto like leeches by fascists, Christian Dominionists, White Supremacists, anti-vaxxers, the grifters behind the manosphere and so many other creeps and perverts. In this post I offer a thought on dealing with the filthy rich.

My suggestion is to unlearn the stupid ideas about capitalism that dominate our education system and our political discourse. Replace them with something approximating reality.

Background

Since the beginning of this country, the filthy rich have hated democracy, arguing that the masses would use the power of government to seize their wealth and reduce their power. The filthy rich of the day hated FDR, and worked to destroy his legacy.

As part of that campaign, they linked capitalism to democracy, so that if you didn’t support their views of capitalism, if you even asked questions about it, you were a commie, an enemy of democracy. They became vocal advocates of the simple-minded economics we were all taught in high school and/or college, and spent massive sums to eradicate all alternatives. My first econ course was taught out of Samuelson on Economics, editions of which are still standard in colleges.

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Now it’s time for those of us who can to start thinking about these foundational idea. They were given to us by people like Adam Smith or William Stanley Jevons, as are all our ideas. And mostly they no longer describe reality. When they’re gone, replaced by something better, how can the filthy rich justify their wealth and power?

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The Economic Myths Supporting The Existence Of Billionaires -- Ed Walker - Emptywheel (Original Post) erronis Aug 26 OP
The arguments for greater state control make me uncomfortable WSHazel Aug 26 #1
Admirable goals and actions. I hope we can see some of these in another future! erronis Aug 26 #2
Maga is certainly beginning to get that "state control of private companies" now! slightlv Aug 26 #3
It really became corporate socialism rather than laissez faire capitalism WSHazel Aug 26 #4
Excellent synopsis! Thank you! slightlv Aug 26 #5

WSHazel

(579 posts)
1. The arguments for greater state control make me uncomfortable
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 12:11 PM
Aug 26

The goal of any system is to raise the standard of living for the greatest number of people. Capitalism is effective at that.

There are lots of ways to increase wages in a capitalist system. Eliminate non-competes, publish wages, make employer feedback available to prospective employees. Provide tax incentives for employee ownership. That is just a starting point.

Taxes on the rich should increase until we have a balanced budget. End tax expenditures for corporations and the rich.

I get really uncomfortable with state ownership or control of private companies, because it always leads to abuse. It is what MAGA wants.

slightlv

(6,563 posts)
3. Maga is certainly beginning to get that "state control of private companies" now!
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 04:17 PM
Aug 26

And I've heard they're not too happy about it.

I'm not going to completely trash capitalism. Like any system, it has its good points and bad. The problem is the people behind it. They're greedy, avaricious, and sometimes flat out psychopaths. When you don't care about anybody but yourself, anything goes. But there are ways of reining in capitalism that doesn't throw out the baby with the bath water.

I'm for regulated capitalism. No owner should make thousands of times more than their lowliest workers. And these percentages should be published so everyone knows what that baseline is. No company should be allowed to spew toxins into the air, land, and sea such that we are presently, and in the future, poisoned. Corporations and companies who advertise and sell known defective products should not be allowed to do so. These are just a few examples that are on the top of my head.

We were actually working on a good outline before Reagan. Americans were prospering, the economy was going well, and there was general satisfaction in the populace. Then came Reagan, the Moral Majority, and the policial implementation of "one trick ponies" like abortion and guns to take our eyes off the overall picture. Reagan (and Cheney, behind the scenes) started tearing down everything we built to control laissez faire capitalism. Deregulation became Reagan's only economic policy, along with the trickle down economics umbrella to explain it all.

I'm not against capitalism. I'm against laissez-faire capitalism. The type of capitalism that exists where anything goes, and it's buyer beware at all times. I really don't like Ferengi economics!

WSHazel

(579 posts)
4. It really became corporate socialism rather than laissez faire capitalism
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 04:34 PM
Aug 26

The government started putting up all kinds of protections for corporations and the rich, and weakened the safety net. This drove down wages and concentrated wealth.

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