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Uncle Joe

(62,051 posts)
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:33 PM 23 hrs ago

Is the U.S. at War With Iran?

President Trump avoided asking Congress for permission before striking Iran, despite the Constitution saying only the legislature can declare war.

Demonstrators hold signs against the U.S. strikes against Iran in Washington outside the White House on Sunday.Credit...Eric Lee for The New York Times

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What are legal scholars saying?

Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi of Iran called the U.S. attack an “outrageous, grave and unprecedented violation” of international law and of the United Nations charter.Credit...Khalil Hamra/Associated Press

Several lawyers and scholars who have studied the international law of armed conflict say the United States is without a doubt at war with Iran for purposes of application of that law, and that Mr. Trump acted in violation of international conventions.

“The short answer is that this is, in my view, illegal under both international law and U.S. domestic law,” said Oona Hathaway, a professor of international law at Yale Law School who has worked at the Defense Department.

Brian Finucane, a former lawyer at the State Department, agreed that Mr. Trump needed to ask Congress for authorization beforehand. He also said “there is certainly a U.S. armed conflict with Iran, so the law of war applies.”

On Sunday, Iran’s foreign minister, Abbas Araghchi, called the U.S. attack an “outrageous, grave and unprecedented violation” of international law and of the United Nations charter, which forbids U.N. members from violating the sovereignty of other members.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/22/us/politics/trump-strikes-war-iran.html

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Is the U.S. at War With Iran? (Original Post) Uncle Joe 23 hrs ago OP
Not only that Zorro 23 hrs ago #1
Of course it is an act of war and he violated the constitution once again. Katinfl 22 hrs ago #2

Katinfl

(383 posts)
2. Of course it is an act of war and he violated the constitution once again.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 07:42 PM
22 hrs ago

So what’s new? What’s gonna happen? Nothing. He dos what he wants, constitution and the law be damned. Congress sure as hell is not doing their job……..they checked out long ago. He does what he pleases, when he pleases and suffers no consequences. Do we have to wait until Nov. 2026 and hope we take control? That’s along time from now and God knows how much more damage he will do. Sadly, I don’t see anything changing. We are so F#$%^&!

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