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Dulcinea

(8,254 posts)
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 07:49 AM Tuesday

DOGE isn't saving much money. So what is Elon Musk really up to?

(Business Insider) If Elon Musk's effort to remake the federal government was ever really about "waste, fraud, and abuse," those DOGE days are over. His quasi-agency has made huge and unprecedented changes to what the federal government does. But ask an economist, historian, or political scientist why, or what it all means, and you'll get a sad-sounding laugh in response.

One thing is clear: There were never many savings to be found. Last year, Musk predicted he could cut $2 trillion from the federal budget. (That was always going to be tough, mathematically, given that the government's entire discretionary budget is $1.7 trillion.) In January, Musk revised his estimate down to $1 trillion. Earlier this month, he revised the revision down to $150 billion.

On the other hand, DOGE has been very good at reducing the number of people who work for the government — as many as 216,000 federal employees and contractors are already out, with more dismissals in the works. Musk has gutted or eliminated agencies that prevent disease, protect us from pandemics, provide aid to our allies, ensure the safety of our food and medicines, and safeguard Americans against toxic chemicals. Every one of those efforts is a proven multiplier of our tax money — every dollar we spend on them redounds to the US economy. Which means that even if Musk succeeds at slashing government spending, he'll actually be adding to the federal deficit: DOGE cuts to the Internal Revenue Service alone are estimated to cost America some $500 billion in lost tax revenue every year.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-really-doge-4-080401392.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&segment_id=DY_VTO_CORE&ncid=crm_19908-1475736-20250422-0-&bt_user_id=vscTMKnI7S%2FoAwWKqufzpEvCMj3zGKbddC1FjqNoE0Zqty25VH3oOG6bBusD8Z%2BZ&bt_ts=1745321755160

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bucolic_frolic

(49,920 posts)
1. He's implementing a libertarian's dream. An efficient government is no government
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 07:52 AM
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because they don't want to put any of their money into it.

marble falls

(64,813 posts)
2. Unintentionally discovering he is not the brain he thought he was, that there was no ...
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 07:54 AM
Tuesday

... great pool of cash for him to to skim. Like Trump, he's burned his way through a lot of cash and businesses. That when he screws people, they remember because this is no game, it's our lives.

marble falls

(64,813 posts)
7. He and Trump are solid, 27 carat fool's gold examples of how far on a limb allegedly smart ...
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 08:54 AM
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... people will go with so little information. A devil's mix of Dunning/Kruger and the Peter Principle.

Walleye

(39,752 posts)
3. Efficiency is way overrated. It seems to be attractive to the bros only.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 07:58 AM
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The efficient way of doing something isn’t necessarily the best. As a matter fact, often times it is the worst we have an American prejudice against organic systems.

Scrivener7

(55,423 posts)
4. It has nothing to do with governmental structure. It is about getting ALL our data for *someone.*
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 08:12 AM
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Either Mump itself or Russia for use against us.

The human toll of jobs lost and lives upended was just a happy byproduct for them.

mwmisses4289

(915 posts)
9. It was also about shutting down agencies
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:51 AM
Tuesday

investigating him and his companies, and looting the same agencies. Look, I've cut this agency, that money is going in my pocket.

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