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My bad. I read the opposite for some reason.

If daylight savings becomes year round, it won’t affect sunrise/sunset in the May-September period, it will affect the winter months the most.

The sun won’t rise until 9am or later, depending on how far north you live, and sunset would be a reasonable 5-6pm, depending on how far south you lived.

Of course it stays light an hour later which in the dead of winter is totally worthless. Lighter earlier in the morning for what reason?

Ridiculous...........

It will be dark until at least 9am, and I expect there will be an increase in injuries and deaths of kids walking to school in the mornings.

This means it gets dark late. Standard time it gets dark early.

Why set our schedules based on standard time values then adjust the time to daylight savings time to because we don't like it. And not everyones life/work even revovles around a 9-5 schedule.

Adjust the schedule instead.

Better? Adjust the schedule instead, get up an hour later.

Exact same number of hours of daylight. No amount of rearranging our sleep schedules twice a year can "save" any daylight.

Just my 2 cents. I don't have a dog in the fight. I don't mind the clock changes or the late/early sunrise/sunsets at all. I've always just found it part of the cool experience of living on a planet that has seasons.

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It's a human construct. It is whatever we decide it should be.

That's all I'm getting at.

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kids who would get run over waiting in the dark for the school bus.

What we have now sucks, but it's the least bad of all the other systems. If we go back to Daylight Saving time year round, people will die as a result -- mainly school kids.

But Republicans only care about kids when they're in the womb, not when they're out of it, so of course they're on board with this bill.

The claims of fatalities caused by the change are greatly exaggerated. In the year prior to the change there were 18 pre-sunrise fatalities. When daylight savings time was eliminated, there were 20 pre-sunrise fatalities. Given the increase in pre-sunlight bus pickups, a change of 2 is not particularly significant - and might even be a lower accident rate, given the increase in quantity of children waiting in the dark. And, if the concern is the time school starts relative to when the sun comes up, set the start of school at a reasonable hour.

The accidents around the time change days are because of the challenge of adjusting sleep schedules, not because of light v. dark. People drive safely in the dark all the time.

accidents with children, I assumed what I posted was sound. Thanks to your efforts, I now realize what I said was wrong and should have researched the matter beforehand.

I believe the main reason winter Daylight Savings in the 1970s was discontinued was that everyone HATED it, including myself. The idea that kids were getting killed waiting for the school bus helped to justify our hatred and its termination.

However, I stand by my main point that the current system we have now, though flawed, is still the best method we have to deal with the change in the hours of sunlight that occur during the year.

But if we must go to a year round static system, then I agree with wackadoo wabbit’s post we’d be better off making it Standard Time instead of Daylight Saving Time.

... and it can be very difficult to see objects alongside the road, despite my best efforts. I would prefer there be daylight when kids are out on the road.

while I was researching this topic because of this vote. They are not directly related to the points you made about pre-sunrise fatalities but thought they were informative.

I found this one the most interesting:

Study suggests most Americans would be healthier without daylight saving time by Nina Bai, Stanford Medicine News Center

]https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2025/09/daylight-saving-time.html

And this one relating to how to protect heart, especially during switching form standard to daylight.

Here’s your wake-up call: Daylight saving time may impact your heart health - American Heart Association
https://newsroom.heart.org/news/heres-your-wake-up-call-daylight-saving-time-may-impact-your-heart-health

Given a choice, I think I'd probably prefer sticking to standard time.

And CBS will cover it right after the daily bear story. Here's the news, bears shit in the woods, would you?

I'm old enough to remember when we went through all of this before.

Preferably before I'm dead.

Being retired, I have tee times, court times (tennis, not legal courts), and appointment times with doctors and investment weasels. Plus various lunches, breakfasts, second breakfasts, etc.

I don't know how I ever found time to work. I confess, I am my watch's b*tch. But, it's good.

Other than that I am quite content with random social interactions. These days the times I commonly pay attention to are doctors appointments and cinema tickets. Other times I can set myself.

I've never worn a watch, possibly because I've had a lot of jobs where that would be dangerous or would interfere with the work.

This is DT's most 'bigly issue'?

Everybody having to get moving at the same time is actually very inefficient.

... for things like railroad and airline schedules, hospitals, and other 24/7 workplaces. There would be no confusion about time when events of worldwide interest happened -- things like international football matches, moon landings, etc.

Otherwise time would be measured locally in hours from sunrise. The time of sunrise varies by season and place but that could be kept track of by phone apps or digital clocks. For children and teachers school might always start at "two hours after sunrise." Such a time keeping system would be kinder to our biological clocks. Our daily lives would be organized in a manner similar to that of our ancestors who lived before the invention of clocks.

It is Standard time that should be made permanent and schools and businesses that change their hours of operation.

The bowling and curling lobbies yawn.

Not to step on toes, but of all the things to worry about, why this, why now? This dosen't make the top 20 o things I'm worried about, so why now?

Medicaid cuts starting next Jan. They want this kind of BS to be talking points around the election instead of what them and Trump are doing to people and the Epstein files.

Let's cut off seniors!

State and Federal level, helped along by a weak knee Republicant Congress and their Fuhrer.

I hate going to bed when it's still daylight outside.

Have had enough of this b.s. of changing clocks twice a year.
Have had enough of trump and republicans as well.
They can all go away and take daylight "saving" time with them.

Now can they actually do what we pay them for and provide some legislation that makes this place tolerable to live in?

There needs a STOP WASTING OUR TIME AND MONEY! protest