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question everything

(52,657 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 04:17 PM 3 hrs ago

Panic at White House over Trump's July 4th plans: 'Who thought this was a good idea?'

Source: Raw Story/MSN

Fresh off the embarrassment of a sparse crowd at last week's Great American Start Fair rally on the National Mall, Trump has now trained his focus on July Fourth — an event he's hyped as the "most unforgettable birthday party any country has ever seen." But behind closed White House doors, officials are quietly freaking out that nobody will show up.

According to CNN, the lackluster attendance at Trump's previous speech infuriated the president, sparking genuine fears among his staff that Independence Day will be an even more visible flop. Triple-digit heat, tightened security, and a schedule stretching well into Saturday night aren't exactly drawing cards.

(snip)

Unlike past Independence Day celebrations, attendees won't be allowed to bring coolers onto the mall during what's forecast to be a brutal 100-degree heat wave, the report notes. The massive fireworks display — which organizers are banking will set a new Guinness World Record—won't even begin until nearly midnight.

The president last week implored fans to show up and also lowered expectations, telling rally attendees, "Your favorite president will be speaking. So please show up because if we have two empty seats, you know what's going to happen? The fake news is going to say, 'He didn't fill out the arena.'"


Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/panic-at-white-house-over-trump-s-july-4th-plans-who-thought-this-was-a-good-idea/ar-AA26ZM6b

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Panic at White House over Trump's July 4th plans: 'Who thought this was a good idea?' (Original Post) question everything 3 hrs ago OP
100 degree heat? Foggedaboutit. Ritabert 3 hrs ago #1
They can cool off in The Epstein Deflection Poo. Oh, I meant Pool. Oops. twodogsbarking 2 hrs ago #4
"Epstein Deflection Pool" Prof. Toru Tanaka 1 hr ago #40
A rally in 100 degrees is like a rally at the height of COVID. A good turnout will depress GOP turnout in November Marcuse 1 hr ago #38
Correct. Ritabert 41 min ago #47
He made it about him not the country. MAGA on the Metro huh? underpants 3 hrs ago #2
With NO COOLERs, it will be empty at 98 degrees at 11PM dave99 2 hrs ago #8
No chairs, no coolers Farmer-Rick 1 hr ago #29
not into rallies dave99 1 hr ago #32
midnight picnic does sound kinda fun orleans 2 min ago #55
And after reading that earlier article PatSeg 1 hr ago #30
The water will be $20/bottle The Madcap 56 min ago #41
Ha, ha! PatSeg 46 min ago #46
It won't be 98 at 11 pm onenote 11 min ago #53
Fireworks timed for his Sundowning time... RockCreek 2 hrs ago #3
Fireworks that will set a guinness book record?................. Lovie777 2 hrs ago #5
I hope they don't set something on fire. yardwork 1 hr ago #20
Was thinking the same. The Madcap 55 min ago #43
with the exception of Trump. stage left 54 min ago #44
For what I saw they spent, not even close to a record. I used to be certified and did over 1k shows Cheezoholic 35 min ago #48
Uh-oh. Given the usual incompetence of wnylib 22 min ago #51
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT BIRTHDAY CAKE WAS LOADED. usonian 2 hrs ago #6
This is such a karmic happening. Baitball Blogger 2 hrs ago #7
I do hope in July 4 the tally becomes 3 Jerry2144 2 hrs ago #10
(Actually, there were three before..... lastlib 1 hr ago #26
Absolutely spot on. The Trump Memorial will be behind the bus station and his tomb will have astro-turf...... FadedMullet 1 hr ago #28
In the 60's my family lived in Arlington. pat_k 2 hrs ago #9
Our little town held a community display on the hillside Maru Kitteh 1 hr ago #31
I miss fireflies!! pat_k 55 min ago #42
Such nice memories! Alice Kramden 25 min ago #50
The same fucking party that clearly thinks all of his vanity projects/events are great ideas, since they never Karasu 2 hrs ago #11
even fireworks displays becoming boring and ho hum if they go on too long nt msongs 2 hrs ago #12
Thousands of people will have to work July 4th so one asshole can be accommodated. twodogsbarking 2 hrs ago #13
I spent the Millennial Y2K New Years Eve in Washington DC genxlib 2 hrs ago #14
I've been on the Mall in the summer. yardwork 1 hr ago #22
I -might have- gone in July '80's or early ' 90s trackng the weather forecasts via the NY Times... electric_blue68 1 hr ago #35
I wonder when he will blame the Democrats for selecting this site as he Capital where he has to spend question everything 17 min ago #52
I'll bet the outside temperature was a balmy 50 or 55 degrees on Dec. 31st (and no humidity) FakeNoose 1 hr ago #27
No coolers, but Old Crank 2 hrs ago #15
Oh, I do hope all the White House fuckers are experiencing terrible Leghorn21 2 hrs ago #16
It could have been a good event Bluetus 1 hr ago #37
A brother in law Old Crank 2 hrs ago #17
Not allowed to bring on anything to eat. yardwork 1 hr ago #23
Just as Fake News as The Russia-Russia-Russia Story DrFunkenstein 2 hrs ago #18
Or maybe he could just fucking die already. Orrex 1 hr ago #19
Let him talk until he drops dalton99a 1 hr ago #21
in 100 degrees Justice matters. 1 hr ago #25
'Please clap'... eom Exp 1 hr ago #24
What happened to all of trumps faithful followers? I really expected to see more. Srkdqltr 1 hr ago #33
He stopped paying them to show up FakeNoose 1 hr ago #34
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Srkdqltr 1 hr ago #36
I seriously doubt Obama or Biden will be speaking. BHDem53 1 hr ago #39
My favorite president will be speaking? No, I don't believe Obama will be there. Grokenstein 49 min ago #45
And C-Span will be there to record the evidence! n/t ReRe 33 min ago #49
I just like: " infuriated the president " johnnyfins 8 min ago #54

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,991 posts)
40. "Epstein Deflection Pool"
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 06:21 PM
1 hr ago
Just another example of how everything King Fecas touches turns to shit.

I am predicting a mammoth fail for his 4th of July “I love me” fest. The high temperatures plus not being able to bring coolers with drinks will really cause attendance to take a hit. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if there are crowds across the river in Virginia to watch the fireworks (and they’ll be able to have coolers, also.)

Marcuse

(9,152 posts)
38. A rally in 100 degrees is like a rally at the height of COVID. A good turnout will depress GOP turnout in November
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 06:18 PM
1 hr ago

underpants

(197,905 posts)
2. He made it about him not the country. MAGA on the Metro huh?
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 04:25 PM
3 hrs ago

Did they even take the Metro in Jan. 6th?

These aren’t exactly mass transit type people plus “city folk” scare them.

I’d think DC residents and locals go regardless of who the POTUS is but they may stay away. Hell, I’m sure you can see the fireworks from all over.

Farmer-Rick

(12,872 posts)
29. No chairs, no coolers
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:50 PM
1 hr ago

You have to buy your water there because you're not supposed to bring it in. You can't bring coolers, water or chairs in.

He might have gotten a few folks who would make a midnight picnic out of it.....which actually sounds kind of fun. But if you can't bring anything in, so much for that idea.

It's like they did everything possible to suck the fun out of the event and make attendees miserable. Just having to listen to that blowhard is torture enough.

orleans

(37,498 posts)
55. midnight picnic does sound kinda fun
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 07:23 PM
2 min ago

but since people can't bring in their own food/coolers/etc their picnics might just end up being as much of a flop as we can predict: they stand around with nothing to eat b/c the ice cream melted again and the food booths are closed or the electric went down again so they can't even buy their "picnic food."

gop -- screwing people as often and as hard as they can.

PatSeg

(54,132 posts)
30. And after reading that earlier article
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:51 PM
1 hr ago

about the food trucks in DC, I don't think buying from these questionable people is very appealing, not to mention they are VERY expensive.


"FOR "ALL THE PEOPLE EATING FOOD RIGHT HERE? THE FOOD ISN'T BEING REFRIGERATED. THAT'S FUCKED UP. THAT'S GROSS."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21341158

The Madcap

(2,189 posts)
41. The water will be $20/bottle
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 06:29 PM
56 min ago

and pulled directly from the Reflecting Pool. Can you say "toxic algae," anyone?

onenote

(46,368 posts)
53. It won't be 98 at 11 pm
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 07:14 PM
11 min ago

It will peak at around 96-99 in the early afternoon and will have dropped to around 85 by 10 pm — maybe a bit lower if and when there is a thunderstorm. But it will be humid and miserable even at those temperatures

RockCreek

(1,653 posts)
3. Fireworks timed for his Sundowning time...
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 04:32 PM
2 hrs ago

Wonderful if that was on purpose.
And a clear lack of involvement in child care, EVER to time this so far past any kids' bedtimes (at least the legal kind of child care)

Lovie777

(24,593 posts)
5. Fireworks that will set a guinness book record?.................
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 04:35 PM
2 hrs ago

oh my...................

this administration tends to hire buddies that are completely incompetent, unqualified greedy SOBs.

Cheezoholic

(4,164 posts)
48. For what I saw they spent, not even close to a record. I used to be certified and did over 1k shows
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 06:50 PM
35 min ago

They aren't even close period.

wnylib

(26,874 posts)
51. Uh-oh. Given the usual incompetence of
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 07:03 PM
22 min ago

the people he hires, they might set DC on fire.

Hope that DC heat is not dry heat.

usonian

(27,250 posts)
6. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT BIRTHDAY CAKE WAS LOADED.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 04:36 PM
2 hrs ago


And a gift from Iran, to celebrate the peace treaty



Baitball Blogger

(52,923 posts)
7. This is such a karmic happening.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 04:44 PM
2 hrs ago

Trump, who from the beginning has been obsessed about crowd size, will end it with no audience at all.

Jerry2144

(3,388 posts)
10. I do hope in July 4 the tally becomes 3
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:00 PM
2 hrs ago

Up from two presidents who have passed on the Fourth. Though the other two were former presidents when they passed. Come on Blood Clot do your thing. Hamberder I know you’re capable of being the super hero the world needs.

lastlib

(28,878 posts)
26. (Actually, there were three before.....
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:44 PM
1 hr ago

J. Adams & T. Jefferson, 1826, and J. Monroe, 1831.)

I honestly hate to think of him being the next one, and besmirching our national birthday with his wretched stench.

FadedMullet

(1,107 posts)
28. Absolutely spot on. The Trump Memorial will be behind the bus station and his tomb will have astro-turf......
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:47 PM
1 hr ago

.......because of all the folks peeing on it.

pat_k

(14,556 posts)
9. In the 60's my family lived in Arlington.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 04:55 PM
2 hrs ago

I remember watching the fireworks at Washington monument. I was pretty young so memories are a bit vague, but it was both very simple, and incredibly exciting. A picnic on the grass (lots of debate about the "best" spot) then the building anticipation of the wait for fireworks to start, which I'm sure was at dusk, around 9 PM.

Midnight fireworks for something that should be a family-friendly event is absolute lunacy. And if you can't bring a cooler, doesn't sound very conducive to picnicking.

And what's with an "arena"? I don't recall any sort of formal seating, but then again, I was pretty young and may not have been aware of other happenings.

One thing that's for sure, those shows instilled a lifelong love of fireworks displays.

Maru Kitteh

(32,115 posts)
31. Our little town held a community display on the hillside
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:54 PM
1 hr ago

north of town - a sea of blankets with kids and dogs, worried moms and crying babies. I remember watching the fireflies blinking on and off in lazy waves over the dampish grass in the setting sun. We ate bologna sandwiches and drank iced tea on our blanket, chatting with neighbors. I wonder now about my parents - did they know how perfect it all was? I really hope that somehow they did know. I hope they knew how those sweet, warm summer memories would sustain their little girl some 50 years later.

pat_k

(14,556 posts)
42. I miss fireflies!!
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 06:30 PM
55 min ago

The simplest pleasures are the best!!

I have memories of hanging out with other kids from our apartment building in Arlington, running around the playground trying to catch them -- or being on the lookout to spot the first of the night. Endless fun.

No fireflies here in Seattle.

Since it was my first school age address, it was drilled into our heads. 1817 N. Quinn St, Arlington. I just looked and the building is still there, now advertised as luxury apartments. I had little to judge by, but I think our place was pretty modest. On Google maps it looks like the swings and little playground are gone.

But it was a fun building to grow up in. Feels like I spent hours on end hanging out and playing with the gang of kids from the building.

Karasu

(2,354 posts)
11. The same fucking party that clearly thinks all of his vanity projects/events are great ideas, since they never
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:05 PM
2 hrs ago

Last edited Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:59 PM - Edit history (1)

stop them.

genxlib

(6,193 posts)
14. I spent the Millennial Y2K New Years Eve in Washington DC
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:18 PM
2 hrs ago

It was pretty cool to see the fireworks round the monuments.

But we had been watching celebrations all day long as the sun crept around the globe. There were a bunch that were more spectacular than ours.

After it was over, our friend summed it up with two words..."Paris wins".

And we went to a party.

I can only think of that when I see all this hullabaloo.

Also, I visited DC when it was over a 100 and it is no fun. I would skip it even without the MAGA speach

yardwork

(70,049 posts)
22. I've been on the Mall in the summer.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:31 PM
1 hr ago

When I was much younger and more resilient and I've never been tempted to go back there in July.

And winter in DC is not great either.

Basically the town is built on a swamp, so it's hot and humid or cold and wet most of the year. It's very nice in the fall.

electric_blue68

(27,991 posts)
35. I -might have- gone in July '80's or early ' 90s trackng the weather forecasts via the NY Times...
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 06:14 PM
1 hr ago

And going in low '80s, low humdity!
We know about summer humidity & 90°+ in NYC but we also have lovely low '80s low humidity. Maybe not as much bc climate change.

question everything

(52,657 posts)
52. I wonder when he will blame the Democrats for selecting this site as he Capital where he has to spend
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 07:08 PM
17 min ago

time.

FakeNoose

(43,143 posts)
27. I'll bet the outside temperature was a balmy 50 or 55 degrees on Dec. 31st (and no humidity)
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:44 PM
1 hr ago

This one is predicted to be 98 degrees at midnight. Yikes!
People would be nuts to go there.

Leghorn21

(14,131 posts)
16. Oh, I do hope all the White House fuckers are experiencing terrible
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:19 PM
2 hrs ago

sweaty days and nights with alternating panic attacks!!!

FUCKING IDIOTS

Bluetus

(3,359 posts)
37. It could have been a good event
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 06:17 PM
1 hr ago

But the USA is over Trump.

Even the MAGA people haven't been showing up for his events for the past year. They still praise him when asked because they are fucking racists, asholes and morons. But they aren't supporting him. They aren't going out to sweat in teh hot sun to hear him recount all of the same personal grievances for the 500th time.

We know that. The question is why the WH staff is in panic only now? Haven't they been paying any attenmtion? I guess the ferris wheel in an otherwise deserted park last week was a dose of reality they aren't often allowed to process..

F them all. :et's see Trump in an epic fail. But is is a shame to do this to the nation on the 250th. This could have been uplifting for all.

Old Crank

(7,446 posts)
17. A brother in law
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:23 PM
2 hrs ago

Lives near DC. Days it's too hot and muggy for people to go to his failure fair.
The thong with fireworks is you can see big shows from a good distance and not have to deal with crowds, pat downs and traffic. Not to mention gouging for beverages and food.

yardwork

(70,049 posts)
23. Not allowed to bring on anything to eat.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:32 PM
1 hr ago

Means anyone there is dependent on the vendors selling $30 turkey legs.

Justice matters.

(10,248 posts)
25. in 100 degrees
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:41 PM
1 hr ago

the "hottest country" indeed...

(not really, but the climate-change denier-in-chief should experience his karma right there)

FakeNoose

(43,143 posts)
34. He stopped paying them to show up
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 06:13 PM
1 hr ago

He really thought they were coming to those rallies to see HIM!

johnnyfins

(4,175 posts)
54. I just like: " infuriated the president "
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 07:17 PM
8 min ago

Anything that causes the orange shitgibbon discomfort, makes me grin.

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