i really don't need any of this.

So, far it really seems like either getting someone else to pay for their crypto mining or yet another red sports car for the inadequate.

... before it starts losing money and all the bills are due. There's no way they will ever be profitable unless they stiff the creditors and fire their employees.

Unfortunately it’s just a little too long for a tee shirt.

Why anyone would support a monster that destroys the quality of life, consumes extremes amounts of energy and water, along with 24/7 jet turbine noise and light pollution is beyond me.

The biggest question I have is, "How did we manage to live all these years without them?"
I think the propaganda is in getting us to believe we need them, and opposition to them is due to our being manipulated by some foreign government.
The explosive growth of data centers, without any oversight or control is definitely dangerous. What are they being used for, and why are so many being built so quickly?

Right.

Which is really saying a lot about what a shit hole this country is.

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against data centers. China has nothing to do with it. When you search on Google leave a space & put -AI at the end of the search.

I sure as hell don't need Chinese propaganda. The TRUTH is bad enough.

Of course to anyone fighting climate change impacts or MEGA BIG CORPORATIST OLIGARCHY, apparently we are just led by the nose by Chinese "instigators."

BULLSHIT. And to hell with these data centers.

They are so full of shit.

reactions of the people. My instinct is that people are rightfully concerned about the effects of enormous energy-hungry data centers on their own neighborhoods and quality of life.

Messing with people’s property values is the quickest way to turn them against you. Any Dem governor that supports building these may as well count themselves out of the presidential primary.

And I’d be pissed as all hell if they put one of these things near my home.

to get people on side.

... we are dealing with corporatists, tech bros, and oligarchs, and there isn't an honest nanoparticle among the whole fuckin' bunch of 'em. So, given what we know about these scurrilous weasels, it makes sense to assume the worst motives imaginable, and then double it. No, FOURPLE it!
People are making AI memes on their home computers. They don't need a 64-square-mile data center to do that. Even scaling AI up to gigundo dimensions, ya gotta wonder.
I would posit that the massive capacity and resource usage that will cripple surrounding communities is going to be devoted to expanding surveillance capabilities on everyone in the country, and then, ultimately, the whole fucking world, to an unimaginably astronomical degree at commensurate costs. Those costs, of course, will be passed on to those being surveilled, whether they like it or not. ICE is just the beginning of how such ruthless control will be instituted.
Total dominion over every aspect of our lives is the goal, but let's just call it "POWER" for short. In order to impose the Feudalism 2.0, which these psychopaths think they're entitled to do, they have to maintain complete control. We are little more than livestock to them; they've already demonstrated that in more ways than we can count, so complacent sheep will be put to work, and live in camps, while recalcitrant rams will be lunchmeat. Soylent Green, if you will. Younglings can Google that, while they're still allowed to Google anything. Trump wants – well, actually, the architects of Project 2025 want – their useful idiot to demand complete control and censorship of the Internet. That's already been reported, so it ain't like Chicken Little's imagined disaster; it's as real as a heart attack. Whether or not he's successful remains to be seen, but he'll sure as hell try.
These people are soulless monsters, and they've come too far, and invested too much, to just let it slip through their claws, so, boy, Howdy, it's gonna get ugly before it gets better.
Keep in mind that, even if you are paranoid, it doesn't mean they ain't after you.
Have a nice day.

with their AI crapola.

Interest is because the land is cheap and water is plentiful. I guess that would be the farming and grazing land as well as land next to the great lakes. I guess not anything to worry about up here...

doesn't make those centers use less electricity. The Chinese opposition to data centers doesn't make our governments give smaller tax breaks to these centers. The Chinese opposition doesn't make the centers use less water for cooling or make less noise. Electric costs go up for everyone near those centers and the centers reduce the amount of water available to the people living near these sites.
With or without the Chinese opposition, people who will be living near these sites oppose them by large majorities.
The rich stupid people pushing data centers for AI are trying to sell a reason for building so many of them and for sticking the poorer people with much of the cost.
Maybe the Chinese are against data centers in the US and I don't care.

Now it's skewing its replies so that they most benefit it

The corporate billionaire losers are so inept that they probably
used a.i. to come up with this desperate attempt to gaslight
us. There is no legitimate reason to have the number/size of
any "data" centers.
In 2000, scientists estimated that the entire printed contents of the U.S. Library of Congress would take up 10 terabytes of memory. And a petabyte (2 50 bytes) of memory could hold roughly one copy of all of the printed information in the world.
The average 1st gen data centers hold over 1,000 terabytes

.... the necessity is not primarily data storage, its computing capacity.

To perform AI training / execution requires a huge parallel processing array of very high end graphics processing units (GPUs). It turns out that the sort of mathematics required for AI and graphic rendering are very much the same - parallel processing of large floating point matrices.

You need a lot of them, and they gobble up a lot of electricity and generate a lot of heat.

Crypto used to rely on on GPUs, but used the parallel processing capability in a different way. Crypto migrated from GPUs to specialized ASICs (application specific integrated circuits). However, these are just as energy hungry and also have to be organized into dense computing arrays.

GPUs are good for both AI and graphics, but AI specific ASICs will probably be developed. AI ASICs have the potential to decrease the energy consumption of AI focused data centers.

In stead of building them in their own country at first. ( Foxcon). And now they have laws preventing them from being built near populations. They are all being built in remote locations.
From Wikipedia
Under their "Eastern Data, Western Computing" initiative, they are building the bulk of their massive AI data centers in remote, sparsely populated regions.This strategy prevents localized power grid strain and conserves resources near major cities.

"They apparently even uploaded a file to the chatbot describing .... how to establish fake social media accounts without getting detected."

Talk about an opsec failure!