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BumRushDaShow

(172,431 posts)
Sat May 23, 2026, 06:28 AM 7 hrs ago

Exclusive - US tax officials consider adding citizenship question to tax forms

Source: msn/Reuters

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WASHINGTON, May 22 (Reuters) - The U.S. Internal Revenue Service is debating requiring taxpayers to disclose their citizenship status on next year's tax forms, according to three people familiar with the situation, as the Trump administration intensifies attempts to link federal agencies to its sprawling immigration enforcement and anti-fraud drive.

IRS officials are considering two versions of Form 1040, the primary paperwork individuals use to report earnings and claim tax benefits, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of professional reprisals. The first version contains minor updates to reflect changes in tax laws. The second includes those updates and a check-box labeled: "Check this box if you are a non-U.S. citizen or have dual citizenship."

Representatives from the Treasury Department - the IRS's parent agency - declined to comment on Friday. Immigrants, including undocumented immigrants, are required to file taxes and use the same IRS forms as tax filers with citizenship. Paying taxes has long been seen as a key factor for undocumented immigrants to obtain legal status.

"It’s just an effort to once again terrorize people with certain immigration statuses, and it’s another step of turning the IRS into an agency that collaborates with immigration authorities rather than being an agency that enforces and administers the tax laws," said Nina Olson, executive director of the Center for Taxpayer Rights, an advocacy and low-income tax assistance organization.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/exclusive-us-tax-officials-consider-adding-citizenship-question-to-tax-forms/ar-AA23Qdw5



They are obsessed with this carrying out of domestic ethnic cleansing and genocide. And it seems the ones pushing this the most, includes those at the head of the government, who come from families with the least tenure in this country.
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Exclusive - US tax officials consider adding citizenship question to tax forms (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 7 hrs ago OP
A Dual-Citizenship Question wyn borkins 7 hrs ago #1
Couple of tax-related dual-citizenship facts... BobsYourUncle 4 hrs ago #5
Watching Out...(Now) wyn borkins 4 hrs ago #6
A couple of points about taxation Old Crank 1 hr ago #10
If like most workers you've paid taxes Buddyzbuddy 6 hrs ago #2
Remove Miller liberalgunwilltravel 6 hrs ago #3
I have a suggestion for a question on a tax form. 70sEraVet 5 hrs ago #4
Another bullshit IRS box to just ignore. Avoiding taxes is SO easy for SO many. Callie1979 3 hrs ago #7
The Billionaires, popsdenver 2 hrs ago #8
In Europe we have both Old Crank 1 hr ago #11
BINGO NC popsdenver 1 hr ago #14
and yet their tax systems seem to work far better than OURS. Callie1979 37 min ago #17
I'm all for it. 100s of well-paying careers can easily avoid taxes. Cant avoid a VAT Callie1979 33 min ago #18
Wasn't it already decided this question was illegal? Bayard 2 hrs ago #9
Not sure Old Crank 1 hr ago #12
Well, let's see here, someone who is not a US citizen, but on a green card, check the box.... ashredux 1 hr ago #13
Imagine being that dumb. SamuelAdams 44 min ago #15
That question is insane. Even undocumented residents are required to file tax returns (especially alwaysinasnit 40 min ago #16
Even illegal income is taxable!! Callie1979 32 min ago #19
... alwaysinasnit 27 min ago #20

wyn borkins

(1,383 posts)
1. A Dual-Citizenship Question
Sat May 23, 2026, 06:42 AM
7 hrs ago

As to the (possible tax-related) question of "dual-citizenship" does anyone know if being a US citizen (legally born in the USA) FIRST, and then obtaining a SECOND citizenship in a non-USA country, say Spain for example, would then Spain be listed as a secondary citizenship country OR would the US citizenship take precedence (???).

BobsYourUncle

(224 posts)
5. Couple of tax-related dual-citizenship facts...
Sat May 23, 2026, 08:56 AM
4 hrs ago

A. There are two (count ‘m 2) nations on our planet which tax the income of their citizens, REGARDLESS of their country of residence. The USA is one of them. The other is a small African nation—ask the web.

1. An expatriate, living abroad is taxed by the USA on all income regardless of its source, the same as a resident of the USA. An expatriate will be in deep doo-doo with their host country if they fail to pay their US taxes.

“One more thing…”. An expatriate, living abroad who has other citizenship, may go to a U.S. consulate and declare that they wish to renounce their citizenship. One of the forms they will need to fill out is essentially a final income tax return to the date of renunciation that treats all assets “as if” sold on that date…all assets, wherever held. That could amount to a lot of capital gains tax!!!

When a taxing authority goes after you internationally WATCH OUT,!!

wyn borkins

(1,383 posts)
6. Watching Out...(Now)
Sat May 23, 2026, 09:10 AM
4 hrs ago

Thank you for pointing out these taxing details related to dual-citizenship.

The information you provided is very much appreciated.

Old Crank

(7,287 posts)
10. A couple of points about taxation
Sat May 23, 2026, 12:23 PM
1 hr ago

The US and Germany have a tax treaty. I assume they have treaties with other countries also.
Since I live in Germany, Germany gets first bite of the apple. I get taxed on income at German rates. Then I file US forms and get taxed on income that the Germans didn't tax on and or any amount that the US would tax more than Germany on.

An example.
A couple of years ago we sold our US house. We got dinged for Capital gains from the US because there are no capital gains on houses if you have help them for 5 -10 years.

We paid very little US tax until my wife retired. Now our German tax advisor has managed to reduce our tax burden here but... we now pay more to the US.

If you live in Switzerland it is even messier because income taxes are by canton....

Buddyzbuddy

(2,919 posts)
2. If like most workers you've paid taxes
Sat May 23, 2026, 07:31 AM
6 hrs ago

in advance and very likely are owed a refund. Just file within 3 years (2029) and you'll still collect your refund without threats from the Gestapo.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,258 posts)
3. Remove Miller
Sat May 23, 2026, 07:36 AM
6 hrs ago

And the problem goes away. The hatred of this administration knows no bounds. They should be the ones to feel the wrath they have inflicted on others.

70sEraVet

(5,632 posts)
4. I have a suggestion for a question on a tax form.
Sat May 23, 2026, 08:17 AM
5 hrs ago

"Are you a billionaire who is currently paying less in taxes than an average school teacher?"

Callie1979

(1,427 posts)
7. Another bullshit IRS box to just ignore. Avoiding taxes is SO easy for SO many.
Sat May 23, 2026, 10:43 AM
3 hrs ago

Our tax system is a JOKE.
If you're NOT a 1099 or W2 worker you can pay what you want.
We need a VAT

Old Crank

(7,287 posts)
11. In Europe we have both
Sat May 23, 2026, 12:25 PM
1 hr ago

Income tax and VAT.

It is true that people with higher incomes pay a much smaller percentage of their income into VAT because it is basically a sales tax.

popsdenver

(2,639 posts)
14. BINGO NC
Sat May 23, 2026, 12:42 PM
1 hr ago

In addition, something people haven't realized,......the rich would also NO LONGER have to pay for their Tax Attorney's and Tax Accountant's......... saving them a TON more money.........the Wealthy and UBER Wealthy deeply resent that they have to pay those two groups the outrageous money they charge......

Callie1979

(1,427 posts)
17. and yet their tax systems seem to work far better than OURS.
Sat May 23, 2026, 01:14 PM
37 min ago

Providing far more benefits to every citizen.

Callie1979

(1,427 posts)
18. I'm all for it. 100s of well-paying careers can easily avoid taxes. Cant avoid a VAT
Sat May 23, 2026, 01:18 PM
33 min ago

The Eu system seems to work far better; yes they have higher rates for the rich but 175 countries use a VAT & have for YEARS. They must be of value.
Our system SUCKS & it's NOT because the upper rates are too low.

ashredux

(2,962 posts)
13. Well, let's see here, someone who is not a US citizen, but on a green card, check the box....
Sat May 23, 2026, 12:41 PM
1 hr ago

So Trump will kick him out of the country because he’s working and actually paying us money each year…. Makes you go HMMM.🤔

SamuelAdams

(210 posts)
15. Imagine being that dumb.
Sat May 23, 2026, 01:07 PM
44 min ago

We have a massive debt, trillion dollar deficits every year, and are spending tens of billions to kick out taxpayers. There are not enough citizens looking for work to replace immigrant workers, even if the available citizens are qualified and willing to do any job. Which they're not.

alwaysinasnit

(5,654 posts)
16. That question is insane. Even undocumented residents are required to file tax returns (especially
Sat May 23, 2026, 01:12 PM
40 min ago

if they hope to obtain legal status in the US someday). If an undocumented person were to be unwise enough to answer truthfully, that admission can then be used against them in immigration proceedings as an admission of unlawful presence in the US.

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