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Wonder Why

(7,194 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 09:33 AM 9 hrs ago

Legal filing raises questions about who shot Secret Service officer at press dinner

Source: Reuters

Summary

Court filing omits claim Allen shot Secret Service officer, contrasting with earlier official statements

Security footage reviewed by Washington Post shows no evidence Allen fired at officers

Source of officer's gunshot wound remains unclear

April 29 (Reuters) - A U.S. government court filing on Wednesday raised questions about officials’ initial assertions that a gunman shot a Secret ​Service officer while allegedly attempting to assassinate President Donald Trump at the White House Correspondents' Association dinner.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/legal-filing-raises-questions-about-who-shot-secret-service-officer-press-dinner-2026-04-29/



Lies, Lies and more lies.

Now, after the false claims about the "gunman" shooting a Secret Service officer, they omitted any mention of that in their filing in court.

All those lies they told the media. Not one word about "We made a mistake", much less than "We lied because we wanted to hype this to the press so we made up false stories".
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Legal filing raises questions about who shot Secret Service officer at press dinner (Original Post) Wonder Why 9 hrs ago OP
Looks like some of those "conspiracy theories" some folks here were were going on about aren't just theories. sop 9 hrs ago #1
What theory does this relate to? (nt) muriel_volestrangler 8 hrs ago #5
Look at the threads where posters shared their theories about this incident and were called conspiracists. sop 8 hrs ago #6
Please answer what I asked, not give just a general "I'm right, but won't say how" reply (nt) muriel_volestrangler 6 hrs ago #16
Look at the threads yourself. Answer your own questions. I'm not going to waste my time looking for you. sop 6 hrs ago #18
Please answer what I asked, not give just a general "I'm right, but won't say how" reply (nt) muriel_volestrangler 5 hrs ago #19
"What theory does this relate to? (nt)" Is that really a question? sop 5 hrs ago #20
Yes. muriel_volestrangler 4 hrs ago #21
Your repeated demands for answers to a nonsensical question are disruptive. sop 4 hrs ago #22
I'm disrupting nothing. muriel_volestrangler 4 hrs ago #24
Yep. One of the other officers shot the guy in the bulletproof jacket Ritabert 9 hrs ago #2
Another SS with an ankle gun, shooting to wound to justify shooting dead Allen. Weird all those shots and Allen ... marble falls 9 hrs ago #3
Let's be clear that the goalposts already moved once Prairie Gates 8 hrs ago #4
And, even if someone did think to fire one or both of his weapons dickthegrouch 8 hrs ago #8
We will not learn that from this admin. Bayard 7 hrs ago #13
For all the hyping, that shooting really didn't gain Trump much in the way of support. Baitball Blogger 8 hrs ago #7
Re WP analysis: S S agent with clear shot misses "shooter", hits S S agent. Wounded S S agent fires at least once, flashman13 7 hrs ago #9
Maybe spend the ballroom money on some firearms training? sop 7 hrs ago #11
What a novel idea. Spend tax payer money on something meaningful. flashman13 7 hrs ago #12
"WTF, Being able to shoot is a big part of the job description." LudwigPastorius 4 hrs ago #23
Have you seen the video? The first shot was a close range head on shot. The second shot was at 10 feet max. flashman13 4 hrs ago #25
Friendly Fire purr-rat beauty 7 hrs ago #10
Just another PR stunt, and Epstein cover Bayard 7 hrs ago #14
They got their lie into the narrative. It will be impossible to correct in the public mind. ShazamIam 6 hrs ago #15
As our Attorney General said: "Sometimes you find the bullet, and sometimes it just disappears." TheRickles 6 hrs ago #17
Eff up cover up Faux pas 4 hrs ago #26
Carol Leonig stated that Allen tripped and that's why they were able to stop him. Katinfl 4 hrs ago #27

sop

(19,062 posts)
1. Looks like some of those "conspiracy theories" some folks here were were going on about aren't just theories.
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 09:38 AM
9 hrs ago

sop

(19,062 posts)
6. Look at the threads where posters shared their theories about this incident and were called conspiracists.
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:27 AM
8 hrs ago

muriel_volestrangler

(106,460 posts)
16. Please answer what I asked, not give just a general "I'm right, but won't say how" reply (nt)
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 12:11 PM
6 hrs ago

sop

(19,062 posts)
18. Look at the threads yourself. Answer your own questions. I'm not going to waste my time looking for you.
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 12:30 PM
6 hrs ago

muriel_volestrangler

(106,460 posts)
19. Please answer what I asked, not give just a general "I'm right, but won't say how" reply (nt)
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 01:12 PM
5 hrs ago

sop

(19,062 posts)
22. Your repeated demands for answers to a nonsensical question are disruptive.
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 02:14 PM
4 hrs ago

I stated my view on the OP. If you disagree, fine....share your own view. Leave it at that.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,460 posts)
24. I'm disrupting nothing.
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 02:23 PM
4 hrs ago

I read some conspiracy theories about the incident; none involved "he didn't fire". They're about "it was staged". The two aren't obviously connected. You think they are, but won't say how.

My view is that the security would have been justified in opening fire even if he hadn't; it's like the invasion of Congress on Jan 6th; a breach of the point by someone intent on getting access to many people who were being protected, and who are likely targets of political violence, justifies potentially lethal use of force.

Your view is "some conspiracy theories" are now not "theories". But you won't say which. And are you saying "they are true"? If so, in what way?

marble falls

(72,405 posts)
3. Another SS with an ankle gun, shooting to wound to justify shooting dead Allen. Weird all those shots and Allen ...
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:01 AM
9 hrs ago

... never fired and never got hit. TACO heads the Gang That Can't Shoot Straight. Let alone make a plot work.

Prairie Gates

(8,377 posts)
4. Let's be clear that the goalposts already moved once
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:10 AM
8 hrs ago

The initial objection was that he hadn't shot the officer. One of the usual Gamers came around to show all the credulous libs that he was charged (or perhaps seemed to have been) with discharging a firearm, which is an altogether different thing. This was supposed to be great own, but it was at best non-responsive to the question. Now the question is did he even discharge a weapon. It seems clear that federal prosecutors don't believe he actually hit anyone. But did either of his weapons even fire?

dickthegrouch

(4,604 posts)
8. And, even if someone did think to fire one or both of his weapons
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:41 AM
8 hrs ago

Whose hands is the GSR actually on?

flashman13

(2,514 posts)
9. Re WP analysis: S S agent with clear shot misses "shooter", hits S S agent. Wounded S S agent fires at least once,
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:18 AM
7 hrs ago

again misses "shooter".

WTF, Being able to shoot is a big part of the job description. That poor quality marksmanship is simple incompetence.

Everything Trump touches turns to poo. R I P S S!

LudwigPastorius

(14,907 posts)
23. "WTF, Being able to shoot is a big part of the job description."
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 02:23 PM
4 hrs ago

The guy appeared to be running at top speed.

I don't care if you're Deadeye Dick, in real life it's hard to hit someone moving that fast.

flashman13

(2,514 posts)
25. Have you seen the video? The first shot was a close range head on shot. The second shot was at 10 feet max.
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 02:42 PM
4 hrs ago

Deadeye Dick might have missed, but there is no excuse for a well trained marksman to miss either shot. Remember, the Secret Service is supposed to be the best of the best.

purr-rat beauty

(1,358 posts)
10. Friendly Fire
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:20 AM
7 hrs ago

This is why felonious trump lumped the left, media, all that he hates and wants to hurt with this suspect.

Get ahead of the findings and control the narrative which his followers will lap up like a cat and antifreeze.

We won't know the truth with anything these assholes sell us

ShazamIam

(3,171 posts)
15. They got their lie into the narrative. It will be impossible to correct in the public mind.
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 12:10 PM
6 hrs ago

TheRickles

(3,475 posts)
17. As our Attorney General said: "Sometimes you find the bullet, and sometimes it just disappears."
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 12:23 PM
6 hrs ago

I am not making this up: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221204173
It turns out that evidence recovery is "not an exact science". Who knew? SMH

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