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BumRushDaShow

(171,083 posts)
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 06:20 AM 12 hrs ago

'Counter to the message of Jesus': progressive Christians stake a claim to their religion amid Trump-pope feud

Source: The Guardian

Sat 25 Apr 2026 08.00 EDT
Last modified on Sat 25 Apr 2026 18.36 EDT


The Trump administration has long tried to wrap itself in Christianity, with Pete Hegseth, the defense secretary, invoking warfare “in the mighty and powerful name of Jesus Christ”. Trump even recently posted an AI image of himself as a Christ-like figure (later claiming he thought it was a doctor) and streamed himself reading the Bible.

But in reality, faith leaders have been some of the loudest and most consistent voices organizing against the administration’s policies.

Since the first time Trump was in office, Christian groups have protested the militarization of ICE in American communities, provided physical shelter to migrants, hosted vigils and coordinated mutual aid. They are outraged by the administration waging war in the name of Christianity and are mobilizing “as an expression of their faith”, said Rev Dr Liz Theoharis, founder and executive director of the Kairos Center for Religions, Rights and Social Justice.

According to Theoharis and others heralding the efforts of progressive and social justice-motivated Christians, more people are joining them. They want to stake a claim to a version of Christianity that’s in opposition to Trump’s and Hegseth’s.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/25/progressive-christians-religion-trump-pope

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'Counter to the message of Jesus': progressive Christians stake a claim to their religion amid Trump-pope feud (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 12 hrs ago OP
K&R ck4829 9 hrs ago #1
Seems like Philo of Alexandria (surely not his real name) was dealing with a similar theological boondoggle ages ago. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 8 hrs ago #2
Somehow this passage, which is supposed to be an actual quote from Jesus, never thucythucy 6 hrs ago #3
I totally agree. I grew up in a Evangelical Church. HeartsCanHope 4 hrs ago #5
I can relate ... oldsoldierfadingfast 2 hrs ago #6
There is also this NYT excerpt to consider. ancianita 6 hrs ago #4

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,137 posts)
2. Seems like Philo of Alexandria (surely not his real name) was dealing with a similar theological boondoggle ages ago.
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 09:35 AM
8 hrs ago

He was fine with creating myths that were open to interpretation, but clutched his pearls over said myths being misinterpreted and causing mayhem by ignorant followers.

thucythucy

(9,114 posts)
3. Somehow this passage, which is supposed to be an actual quote from Jesus, never
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 11:56 AM
6 hrs ago

gets any attention from the MAGA Christo-nationalists:

from Matthew 25:

The Final Judgment

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[f] you did it to me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Anyone who ignores this passage and even preaches and does the opposite can't claim to be a follower of the Biblical Jesus. For instance: the Jesus of this verse would never be a cheerleader--let alone an agent--for ICE. Would never cut aid to the homeless or people--especially children--who are humgry.

But then we all know what hypocrites and scoundrels claim to be "Christian nationalists." Then too, it's a fairly long passage, which is a stumbling block for so many right wingers.

HeartsCanHope

(1,717 posts)
5. I totally agree. I grew up in a Evangelical Church.
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 01:55 PM
4 hrs ago

They seem to skip over this passage and others like it. Too busy condemning the LGBTQIA+ community to

do the real work! They hate Pope Leo because he has walked the walk--working for years

actually caring for those in need. Not a churchgoer anymore because of all the hypocrisy I viewed over the years, but I

definitely believe that if there is a Hell, these so-called Christians are intent on making their way there!

6. I can relate ...
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 03:41 PM
2 hrs ago

Think of all the so-called "Christians" in positions of power in the churches that are the child molesters!
Not all Christian leaders preach the same gospel and/or practice what they preach.

ancianita

(43,314 posts)
4. There is also this NYT excerpt to consider.
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 12:23 PM
6 hrs ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/23/opinion/trump-iran-unjust-war-catholicism.html

"...But while the manner of a leader matters, the substance matters even more. The debate raises two key questions. First, is Trump’s war on Iran a just war under Catholic just war doctrine? Second, why is Catholic doctrine relevant to anyone other than Catholics? Trump isn’t Catholic, and it’s not clear whether ordinary Americans should care if, say, Catholic officials like JD Vance and Marco Rubio are out of line with Catholic teaching for supporting Trump’s war.
The core requirements of just war doctrine were outlined by Thomas Aquinas in Summa Theologica, in the 13th century. For a war to be just, it must be waged through the lawful operation of the sovereign, it must be waged for a just cause (such as self-defense), and it must be waged for a just purpose.

As the Catechism of the Catholic Church demonstrates, rulers aren’t given broad discretion to decide for themselves what is just...The gravity of such a decision makes it subject to rigorous conditions of moral legitimacy.”

That means that each of the following conditions must be satisfied before a nation engages in armed conflict:

“the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave and certain;

“all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;

“there must be serious prospects of success;

“the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.”


When you read the Catechism of the Catholic Church you can immediately see why it’s relevant to non-Catholics. Right there in the document are the moral foundations of the modern law of armed conflict.

In fact, the Department of Defense Law of War Manual describes the just war doctrine as part of the “philosophical foundation” of the law of war and says, “The just war tradition remains relevant for decisions to employ U.S. military forces and in warfighting.”

The best piece I’ve read that applies those principles to the Iran war is by Edward Feser, a Catholic philosophy professor at Pasadena City College and the author of “Aquinas: A Beginner’s Guide.” It appeared in Public Discourse, a journal published by the conservative Witherspoon Institute...."
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