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mahatmakanejeeves

(70,370 posts)
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 04:20 PM Yesterday

Trump ousts National Science Board members

Source: Washington Post

Trump ousts National Science Board members

Members of the independent board that guides the National Science Foundation said they received a notice from the White House that their positions were being terminated.

Updated
April 25, 2026 at 2:51 p.m. EDT today at 2:51 p.m. EDT


Members of the National Science Board, which advises Congress and the president and sets policies for the U.S. National Science Foundation, were dismissed recently. (U.S. National Science Foundation/AP)

By Carolyn Y. Johnson

Multiple scientists who serve on an independent board established to guide the nation’s nearly $9 billion basic science funding agency were terminated from their positions Friday by President Donald Trump.

{snip}


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2026/04/25/national-science-board-members-dismissed/



https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/carolyn-johnson/

Hat tip, Joe.My.God.

https://www.joemygod.com/2026/04/trump-fires-members-of-national-science-board/
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Trump ousts National Science Board members (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Yesterday OP
Well... 2naSalit Yesterday #1
When will literacy be made illegal? Irish_Dem Yesterday #2
Not long! 2naSalit Yesterday #7
Well, according to trump joshdawg Yesterday #9
Are they trying to re-create Cambodia's Khmer Rouge? Ocelot II Yesterday #4
At some point... 2naSalit Yesterday #8
Scary Times yankee87 23 hrs ago #16
Many of the things they threaten about socialism, we get with MAGA. IronLionZion 21 hrs ago #23
This is Team trDUMP,... we don't do no scientisty stuff here. Just go away. magicarpet Yesterday #3
;-{)........ Goonch Yesterday #5
Zoe Lofgren: "A real Bozo the Clown move" muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #6
The day is coming... GiqueCee Yesterday #10
Raw Story article: red dog 1 Yesterday #11
paywall NJCher 23 hrs ago #18
Dear NJCHer, bookmark these sites. usonian 22 hrs ago #19
thank you! NJCher 22 hrs ago #21
They want to send us back to the middle ages. Fil1957 Yesterday #12
McMurdo Station (pictured) might be mankind's last refuge from... OGBuzz 23 hrs ago #13
Doesn't Congress have *some* say in these appointments ? eppur_se_muova 23 hrs ago #14
His ears perked up when he heard $9 billion... littlemissmartypants 23 hrs ago #15
Impeach him Joinfortmill 23 hrs ago #17
He gets basically everything he wants, because NOBODY IS STOPPING HIM. usonian 22 hrs ago #20
I don't know how this will end up NJCher 21 hrs ago #22
Eventually he will piss off the WRONG (evil) person. usonian 21 hrs ago #24
Science is too woke for the slobfather Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 20 hrs ago #25
Wtf? jfz9580m 18 hrs ago #26
YES / NO, the only way to stop him right now is the courts because we do not control state of stupid 17 hrs ago #29
ZKP jfz9580m 9 hrs ago #32
Another victory...for Putin Blue Dotty 17 hrs ago #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Dotty 17 hrs ago #28
Ugh... sakabatou 17 hrs ago #30
So, it's not really independent? Hugin 10 hrs ago #31
TSF's only "leadership" ability is murielm99 8 hrs ago #33
Undermining everything that makes this country great. Martin68 7 hrs ago #34
Our race to the bottom, being sold as our race to the top. Orwellian. Self-Destructive. Insanity is manifesting. nt Evolve Dammit 1 hr ago #35

2naSalit

(103,585 posts)
1. Well...
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 04:27 PM
Yesterday

There goes the neighborhood.

Next he'll be targeting people who have college degrees, then it will be all the school teachers, then it will be anyone who can read or wears glasses... and on and on until we are all serfs.

joshdawg

(2,974 posts)
9. Well, according to trump
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 05:53 PM
Yesterday

literacy will be banned in two weeks.
An E.O. is forthcoming.
An amoeba has an I.Q. higher than trump.

Ocelot II

(130,951 posts)
4. Are they trying to re-create Cambodia's Khmer Rouge?
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 04:43 PM
Yesterday
The Khmer Rouge ruled a totalitarian state in which citizens had essentially no rights – they abolished civil and political rights, private property, money, religious practices, minority languages, and foreign clothing. Citizens could be detained for the slightest offenses, and the government set up vast prisons where people were held, tortured, and executed. . . .

The Khmer Rouge based their policies on the idea that citizens of Cambodia had become corrupted by outside influences, especially Vietnam and the capitalist West. The Khmer Rouge referred to people who supported their vision as “pure people,” and persecuted anyone they deemed “impure.” Within days of taking power, the regime killed thousands of military personnel and forcibly moved millions of people out of cities, killing anyone who refused or was too slow. They forced citizens into what they called reeducation schools, which were essentially places of state propaganda. The regime forced families to live communally with other people, in order to destroy the family structure. The Khmer Rouge targeted ethnic minorities, especially Chinese, Vietnamese, and Muslim Cham, of whom an estimated 80% were killed. In addition, anyone who was believed to be an intellectual was killed: doctors, lawyers, teachers, even people who wore glasses or knew a foreign language became targets.

https://sfi.usc.edu/collections/cambodian-genocide

IronLionZion

(51,462 posts)
23. Many of the things they threaten about socialism, we get with MAGA.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 08:44 PM
21 hrs ago

Like armed masked goons shooting American citizens dead on the street.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,425 posts)
6. Zoe Lofgren: "A real Bozo the Clown move"
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 05:17 PM
Yesterday
“This is the latest stupid move made by a president who continues to harm science and American innovation,” said Ranking Member Lofgren. “The NSB is apolitical. It advises the president on the future of NSF. It unfortunately is no surprise a president who has attacked NSF from day one would seek to destroy the board that helps guide the Foundation. Will the president fill the NSB with MAGA loyalists who won't stand up to him as he hands over our leadership in science to our adversaries? A real bozo the clown move."

https://democrats-science.house.gov/news/press-releases/ranking-member-lofgren-reacts-to-latest-trump-scheme-to-undermine-science

GiqueCee

(4,517 posts)
10. The day is coming...
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 06:19 PM
Yesterday

... when we'll terminate Fatty McPsychopants from his position. And that day can't come soon enough.

usonian

(26,078 posts)
19. Dear NJCHer, bookmark these sites.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 07:38 PM
22 hrs ago


1. https://bypasspaywallreader.com/
Bypass Paywall Reader works by finding freely available archived versions of articles — no login, no payment, no subscription required.

1a. Sometimes, https://www.removepaywall.com/

2. A group of sites, basically the same.
The usually reliable archive.today, archive.ph, archive.is, archive.md and so on.
Included in the above.

OGBuzz

(456 posts)
13. McMurdo Station (pictured) might be mankind's last refuge from...
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 06:45 PM
23 hrs ago

the coming Trump/MAGAt global catastrophe.

eppur_se_muova

(42,204 posts)
14. Doesn't Congress have *some* say in these appointments ?
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 06:50 PM
23 hrs ago

If we could find out where it's hiding, would it do anything about this ?

NJCher

(43,349 posts)
22. I don't know how this will end up
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 08:35 PM
21 hrs ago

because there's so much material on whether he can fire from an independent board. For a time, it looked like they (SC) were leaning toward letting him do this but I don't know whether they ruled on that or not. It has to do with Humphrey's Executor. During normal times I could wade through it but right now I'm too tired. If anyone wants to look at the situation, though, here are two links that discuss it.


The Likely Weakened Role of “Independent Agencies” in a Post-Humphrey’s Executor World, by Harvey L. Reiter
Harvey L. ReiterJanuary 17, 2026

and

Defending the Fed: agency independence in three dimensions
By
Richard Re

Jan 27, 2026

usonian

(26,078 posts)
24. Eventually he will piss off the WRONG (evil) person.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 08:49 PM
21 hrs ago

Hear me and hear me well.

MAGATS are cowards and balloons inflated with their own farts.

Killing a bunch of schoolkids? Yeah, that proves your bravery.

A buck Private in the army has more discipline and self-control.

Proving my point about 100% projection, they talk about "nothing but talk libs"

RIGHT. They talk.

And lose their jobs, livelihood, opportunity, dignity, self-respect, and they pay out the wazoo for gas and food, all because they buy the fairy tale told by the heir to the Trump-Epstein illicit sex, blackmail and money-laundering empire.



MAGATS don't need sex, cuz they are experts at



themselves.

And how do they get even?

THEY BEG FOR MORE PUNISHMENT



Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(136,586 posts)
25. Science is too woke for the slobfather
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 10:11 PM
20 hrs ago

Don't need these fancy pants intellectuals getting in the way.

state of stupid

(170 posts)
29. YES / NO, the only way to stop him right now is the courts because we do not control
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 01:25 AM
17 hrs ago

Last edited Sun Apr 26, 2026, 02:44 PM - Edit history (1)

any branch of the government. We can be an itch in his git along, but if the Repuke cowards in
Congress will not stand up to him, then he gets his way, and we are left to fight it out in court.

I am a believer in the system, so our hope is to delay thru the courts and hopefully get at least one
branch of the government in the midterms. Then and only then can we make a dedicated effort to
bring Dickless Dictator Donnie to a place he does not want to be.


SIDENOTE: The republicans (if you want to call them that, I call them RINO s), they are not afraid of
The Dickless Dictator Donald, they are afraid of his nutjob base!!

jfz9580m

(17,510 posts)
32. ZKP
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 09:21 AM
9 hrs ago

Last edited Sun Apr 26, 2026, 10:58 AM - Edit history (1)

0000F5D7
Is your icon a bike? Cute.

Well, I am filing sexual harassment, misconduct and malpractice charges as this is not a Diplomacy Game or a reality show but real life. I back a criminal case for everything that happened in India that came from the tech sector, hospitals and Facebook. I use WhatsApp for my medical mj presc but that never meant any tacit support for misogynistic exploitation. I support my doctor and mj co. I would never trust Facebook, Tata, Reliance, the creepy and corrupt communist state I live in nor any corrupt and misogynistic Indian diaspora involved.

The decent Indians I know would never have anything to do with any of these people and all these disparate networks Indian or American/Chinese/Russian/ME whatever are corrupt, parasitic frauds. No decent humans would work with anything Google, Facebook, Palantir etc do. They don’t seem to understand the rules of reality and nor does the parasitic and criminal gaming, entertainment industry or the type of press in this.

I fully back a criminal case or other harsh penalties against the Trump-minded and the Mark Cuban-minded I see in India as well as similar people I started seeing starting from Jan 2012 in the US.

This is all unfortunate. But that is the price of being a shallow thinker and just not very bright, things I have never been.

Except taken literally, this applies to why I am certain that even as a marijuana user and one who buys modafinil otc as the quality of the mental health services I have seen after Dec 2011 have been uniformly shitty in terms of any actual utility (though a couple of the shrinks and a therapist were decent), I have nothing to worry about and I have no fears for my few friends, colleagues, doctors, my medical mj company.

From that piece of trash wikipedia so beloved by third rate in

Zero Knowledge Proof
In cryptography, a zero-knowledge proof (also known as a ZK proof or ZKP) is a protocol in which one party (the prover) can convince another party (the verifier) that some given statement is true, without conveying to the verifier any information beyond the mere fact of that statement's truth.[1] The intuition behind the nontriviality of zero-knowledge proofs is that it is trivial to prove possession of the relevant information simply by revealing it; the hard part is to prove this possession without revealing this information (or any aspect of it whatsoever).[2]

In light of the fact that one should be able to generate a proof of some statement only when in possession of certain secret information connected to the statement, the verifier, even after having become convinced of the statement's truth by means of a zero-knowledge proof, should nonetheless remain unable to prove the statement to further third parties.

Zero-knowledge proofs can be interactive, meaning that the prover and verifier exchange messages according to some protocol, or noninteractive, meaning that the verifier is convinced by a single prover message and no other communication is needed.


Any and all ai and data mining companies and fraudulent “security”..all of it.
I am also a believer in systems and I understand people and reality.

I fully back a criminal case here with rare exceptions. I will turn state’s witness the day I can.
At this point not even Yasha Levine would be able to talk me out of it. And I doubt that the other journalist I support Chris Ketcham would feel sorry for creeps like these.

There will be zero compunction from my side going forward as I am also a believer in non transactional (ie not prostitution and parasitism but some principles) systems.

I lost my mother to this shameless greed and these risible attempts to blackmail.
As for the GOP, they are a joke like all creeps.

This was the most worthless waste of life ever. We don’t know how new technologies etc change the world. But brainless and self serving do not mean rational self interest. Self righteous, obnoxious and at least somewhat sexist is not hard working and ethical!

Good luck to everyone who will need it. I lost my mom to this and throughout I have been hobbled when I failed to follow my hunches.

I am grateful to EarlG. And would be proud to be of use to him and DU some day when it comes up.

Neither fashionable clothes nor gold toilets nor private beaches nor 2000 children nor verified by pseudoelite assholes rubber stamps can make up for a complete lack of pride, decency and intelligence.

I am going to focus on my work and tune out the world. Anything that continues or breaks the few things acceptable to me out of spite will make this even worse.
I will add a few administrative notes to makw this easier on the vanishingly rare decent humans ever involved.

The rest can live with the consequences of their behavior.

I expect to survive. But this will end badly for many involved as it should.
I knew thjs was worthless trash and those llms are overrated garbage.

Pathetic..I try to be a nice person but there is nothing nice about endlessly forcing trash on the few like me who fall into the rare cross section of three things that I bet my sanity on:
Environmentalist/Scientist/Enlightenment Left.

This was worthless misogynistic trash, malpractice ans misconduct.
My oncologist, main mentor, my last mentor’s wife, my ex husband, my best friend and his wife and maybe another male colleague from 2011-2012 (the only not intensely stupid or at least annoying human there aside from my mentor’s wife, an Indian student/Indian postdoc/a brit bio prof/shrink/therapist/a female scientist from the lab i was in who proferred to me european dark chocolate /a female scientist from a loathesome lab adjacent run by a Steven Pinker fan/ and last but far from least pd counsellor/the first hr lady) and above all my mom/dad and I deserved better.
No means no. As is I have to forgive the intensely stupid and avid admirers of rubbish like Freakonomics from before Dec 2011. But I liked my mentor’s wife and I think if one makes sacrifices that are not and never will be quid pro quos as decent publicly funded scientists are not transactional and follow sane rules of logic with all their constraints because that is how reality works.
Not a tacky chinese rubber stamp nor human overpopulation driven misogynistic transactionalism masquerading as compassion with Cato style mercantilism as a way to “uplift all”.

I am on the left. I am not lobotomized. And I am confused as to how people in tech think blackmail can work when they have consistently displayed undemocratic and misogynistic tendencies and tried to exploit unshared private info to take people hostage and create a permacrisis.
Like most publicly funded scientists I take my work very seriously. And that includes taking whatever hits like a non histrionic complainant over allowing any of this low rent, lightweight fluffy trash.

I had just learnt not to break instruments by 2011. And now I trust my handling of these instruments over people struggling with these sociopolitical/technological/scientific and cultural barriers endlessly.

Those llms are garbage. This is garbage. Nothing that started like this with Google and Facebook and Microsoft etc being criminally allowed to use security to take society hostage will end well.

And oh I am not worried about being unpopular, utopian etc. I am frustrated that this message isn’t going through fast enough to all the parasites who will anyway face charges - marijuana will be legalized eventually, harassing and exploiting women only seems legally viable if you are one of the local gangrapists or a creep who works at Facebook Google etc or a total creep like V.S.Ramachandran or the Insys creep or


More light ans sound pollution abd more of any use of my street or home, escalating criminal charges I file.
Every time i ignored mt gut instincts things gor worse

I am going offline. I am pressing charges.
I will be back on du once i finisg work ri relax.
My work amd heakrh went to shit Thanks to parasitic humans from two countries peddling privatized healthcare and education (all those misogynistic and brainless eecs and tech type. If they out of prison i will ve shocked. The insys Guy didn’t..if lina khan was too much regulation some google and Facebook people going to prison might do the trivk. Teaching momenr foe any other tech parasitws getting ideas ro be clear..)

Oh yeah..final comment
Do you know how I know?
Because I am not a schizophrenic, addict or borderline or a charlatan or a fucking awful human being.

It is not in my head and I never had any mental illness and in my own way I have as much integrity if not more than these fucking parasitic gangrape enthusiasts.
I just seemed weird because I am a lefty feminist

But I am pretty laid back and I pull that off by staying far away from people who annoy the shit out of me and I was not expecting to end up encountering some ugly fucks (conservadems of the type you find sucking off those criminals at Google..well okay at some point I will improve my communication skills..still furious) with even uglier fucks (any gop) as the back up option. Ugly on the inside
Except in hells like China and Russia or Saudi Arabia or Epstein funded labs, you would not feel the national security state at all as a private citizen

I am a real Green/lefty and scientist and we are much nicer than these fucking assholes who are the nice guys of the pathetic type I met.
Fuck it all
Dumb fucks.
Trump is the fault of all the Betsy Hartmann crossed with Cato humpimg creeps who treat earth as a giant toilet/parking lot/mall/theme park

Peter Kalmus gets it. Adam Becker gets it. Sam Miller MacDonald gets it. Chris Ketcham gets it.
Only those tech pervert humpers don’t
Bah …all bullshit
I am nice..it is bs
And totally sane whatever I sound like
I was not planning a heart to heart with every brainless creep ever
Poor EarlG
I am going offline. I am laughing but I hate these creeps
Always behaving as if they are besting me by totally asymmetrically

Anyone who got into bed with this is a fucking idiot. These brainless overrated computer it etc parasite engineer permacrises ffs.
I am going offline

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

murielm99

(33,026 posts)
33. TSF's only "leadership" ability is
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 10:15 AM
8 hrs ago

to say, "You're fired!" And he learned that from playing a leader on television.

Evolve Dammit

(21,804 posts)
35. Our race to the bottom, being sold as our race to the top. Orwellian. Self-Destructive. Insanity is manifesting. nt
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 05:29 PM
1 hr ago
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