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demmiblue

(39,758 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 08:28 AM Yesterday

Trump says 'a whole civilization will die tonight' if Iran does not make a deal

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON, April 7 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump once ‌again exhorted Iran to make a deal by his ​Tuesday deadline, saying a "whole civilization ​will die tonight" if ⁠an agreement is not ​reached to end ​the conflict.

"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to ​be brought back ​again. I don't want that ‌to ⁠happen, but it probably will," Trump said in a post on ​Truth ​Social.

We ⁠will find out tonight, one of ​the most important ​moments ⁠in the long and complex history of ⁠the ​World."

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-says-a-whole-civilization-will-die-tonight-if-iran-does-not-make-deal-2026-04-07/



Trump is deranged and delusional. He refuses to deal with factual reality and believes in his own grandiosity. He should not be anywhere near the levers of power. America and the world will long pay for the tragic mistake of returning him to power. He should be removed now.

Steven Beschloss (@stevenbeschloss.bsky.social) 2026-04-07T12:25:25.810Z

Normally don’t hang on Trump posts like this but this sounds like a guy who has looked at nuclear first strike plans and we need members of Congress to bodily go to the White House and talk this mf down.

Aaron Huertas (@aaronhuertas.bsky.social) 2026-04-07T12:45:48.732Z
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Trump says 'a whole civilization will die tonight' if Iran does not make a deal (Original Post) demmiblue Yesterday OP
Jesus Christ. What will stop this asshole? Scrivener7 Yesterday #1
An exploding Aorta unfortunately n/t Cheezoholic Yesterday #14
Can't happen soon enough JokeHer 15 hrs ago #161
I have a bdamomma Yesterday #79
Who knew Dr Strangelove would turn out like this? ananda 23 hrs ago #91
Armageddon? yankee87 21 hrs ago #117
As of this time, 1:30PM ET, the markets are all in the red... Justice matters. 21 hrs ago #119
There are people who can, but they are not doing so. yellow dahlia 20 hrs ago #133
Sicko. Pukes, do your job and remove this foul pestilence from the people's house! Blues Heron Yesterday #2
Not gonna happen. orangecrush Yesterday #24
Donald Trump has been itching to use YoshidaYui Yesterday #3
Yeah, that would get the Straights of Hormuz open MadameButterfly Yesterday #7
Not only is he jonesing to use a nuke, mwmisses4289 Yesterday #18
I've been saying this for a while Javaman Yesterday #21
Good assessment orangecrush Yesterday #26
Psychologists have been saying similarly as well. I think KPN Yesterday #76
His a malignant narcissist Diraven Yesterday #80
I hate bdamomma Yesterday #81
Trump, God Bless the Great People of Iran. Botany Yesterday #4
Yes he is very dangerous. Irish_Dem Yesterday #49
Where is his bdamomma Yesterday #82
Stephen Miller agrees with this madness, nothing Wednesdays 23 hrs ago #95
THIS!!! Seinan Sensei 23 hrs ago #94
That's pretty specific, promising a whole civilization will die tonight. What will Trump say tomorrow? sop Yesterday #5
He will say that he spared them because a johnnyfins Yesterday #39
Hopefully not, "I told you so." Scrivener7 Yesterday #53
He would destroy everyone and everything on the planet. Irish_Dem Yesterday #6
Gotta feel sorry for those Artemis II astronauts Attilatheblond Yesterday #45
Reality has become a horror movie right in front of our eyes. Irish_Dem Yesterday #48
Honestly, I thought about that last night hamsterjill 21 hrs ago #121
Two or three movies, I think Attilatheblond 21 hrs ago #122
Yeah, nothing seems to work for me any more. hamsterjill 21 hrs ago #125
Can't hike anymore but being outside with birds, bugs, trees used to help a lot Attilatheblond 21 hrs ago #126
I understand. hamsterjill 20 hrs ago #128
Very cool about your cat santuary! Also.... OhioBack2Blue 20 hrs ago #132
Absolutely. hamsterjill 19 hrs ago #141
And Donkeys... thought crime 18 hrs ago #143
Genocide coming, "glory to god." gab13by13 Yesterday #8
Pedo Trump Farmer-Rick Yesterday #9
Is Putin bdamomma Yesterday #85
I don't know. Farmer-Rick 21 hrs ago #120
Trump drools for a holocaust C_U_L8R Yesterday #10
And the curesed survivors will still be asking Attilatheblond Yesterday #47
This is a horrid Catch 22. If he does it, thousands die. If Iran capitulates, it bolsters his insanity Cheezoholic Yesterday #11
Iran will not capitulate. Wiz Imp Yesterday #62
Iran won't give in. But they will have some surprises for the US. Trueblue Texan Yesterday #66
I am honestly surprised that we haven't witnessed something yet from Iran. hamsterjill 21 hrs ago #123
Most likely Trump will claim that Iran gave in. yardwork Yesterday #72
Did he write this? spinbaby Yesterday #12
Probably written by Nazi in chief Steven Miller. yourout Yesterday #17
Of course bdamomma Yesterday #87
Exhibit 1,980,819 liberalgunwilltravel Yesterday #13
What deal? Trump never identified even a single one of the "15 points" Bluetus Yesterday #15
Yeah, that would be ours BeyondGeography Yesterday #16
The horror of this is truly beyond belief 31st Street Bridge Yesterday #19
Isn't the statement itself a war crime? MadameButterfly Yesterday #20
That's an excellent post. chouchou Yesterday #23
If we survive this term, we need to join the ICC. Qutzupalotl Yesterday #83
Sounds like a mobster treat. broiles Yesterday #22
or just bdamomma 23 hrs ago #96
Or a member of his security detail with a brain and a conscience. Attilatheblond 22 hrs ago #109
so rather than stop him before he commits war crimes and maybe drops a nuke... Javaman Yesterday #25
I'm afraid a civilization will end, only multigraincracker Yesterday #27
I'm reminded of the Oracle of Delphi... Wounded Bear Yesterday #51
Right. Persian civilization has lasted 3 millenia, against much greater threats than this loudmouth piece of shit.. dedl67 19 hrs ago #140
Was thinking the same... The Madcap 16 hrs ago #154
shithole gonna kill and destroy mother earth?...................... Lovie777 Yesterday #28
so has anyone called their congresspeople today? electron_blue Yesterday #29
Threatening genocide alfredo Yesterday #33
Somebody needs to march into the Oval Office. hadEnuf Yesterday #84
I would bdamomma 23 hrs ago #88
I call every day Seinan Sensei 23 hrs ago #92
Living in AZ 6, we don't know if our congressman is still alive or if he skipped town. Where's Juan? Attilatheblond 22 hrs ago #111
Lone Gunmen Are Never Around When You Need Them. ColoringFool Yesterday #30
He never learned about Croesus and the Oracle of Delphi Tanuki Yesterday #31
We need the Vice President to invoke the 25th Amendment Joinfortmill Yesterday #32
Vance is going to Hungary, he's not going to be any help to us FakeNoose Yesterday #34
I guess that leaves option 2. Joinfortmill Yesterday #38
Our status in the world has been severely damage by that Orange Julius. alfredo 18 hrs ago #146
Vice President bcbink Yesterday #35
That leaves Option 2. This country has seen this before. Joinfortmill Yesterday #40
That man will be our doom if he isn't stopped. Solly Mack Yesterday #36
And where is the GOP leadership? Hiding behind bluster, innuendo, and preveracation! Ford_Prefect Yesterday #37
Those who ridiculed Hillary in 2016, and either voted for trump, or DIDN'T vote, and did the same thing in 2024 against lostincalifornia Yesterday #41
Hear, hear!!! Beacool Yesterday #44
For all those that claim women are " too emotional" to be president. What say you now? tulipsandroses Yesterday #42
The Persian civilization is thousands of years old. Beacool Yesterday #43
He's already committed war crimes. Wiz Imp Yesterday #59
ya know , we will feel the radiation too. AllaN01Bear Yesterday #46
Yes! Hope22 22 hrs ago #115
Wonder if t**** will order the MOAB ... Auggie Yesterday #50
Why do I feel like he's talking about America? CaptainTruth Yesterday #52
Absolutely lonely bird Yesterday #54
He does bdamomma 23 hrs ago #98
Genocidal Maniac Kid Berwyn Yesterday #55
This scene from The Dead Zone sums up my beliefs about Trump OnlinePoker Yesterday #56
Susan Collins, that living mummy, should send him a strongly worded letter Blumancru Yesterday #57
Let me tell you Susan Collins is taking credit for all infullview 3 hrs ago #163
Fucking lunatics, the whole lot of p25. Every last one of them! Clouds Passing Yesterday #58
Nothing will stop him AverageOldGuy Yesterday #60
It was sort of nice knowing you, America. niyad Yesterday #61
We had a pretty good run. LudwigPastorius 20 hrs ago #134
Not exactly covered in glory most of the time, but there were some niyad 20 hrs ago #135
I hope the morons in "Tehrangeles" are happy fujiyamasan Yesterday #63
Removal from office will stop him. Trueblue Texan Yesterday #64
Today? Leaders with sense? Nothing with an "r" after its name, and he niyad Yesterday #70
Even just a sense of self-preservation should suffice... Trueblue Texan Yesterday #73
I can understand that. Come on, cholesterol!!! niyad Yesterday #75
Where is Kristi Noem when you really need her? Zorro Yesterday #65
Did he specify which civilization? Asking because if anyone has noticed bucolic_frolic Yesterday #67
No, he did not. But most here noticed. niyad Yesterday #68
Waiting for a certain poster somethingshiny Yesterday #69
Marjorie Taylor Greene: 25TH AMENDMENT!!! Not a single bomb has dropped on America. demmiblue Yesterday #71
Marjorie Taylor Greene: "This is evil and madness." Botany 22 hrs ago #107
Really weird timeline when MTG and TC are voices of reason fujiyamasan 21 hrs ago #118
Fuck off, Marjo. LudwigPastorius 19 hrs ago #136
She's come a long way, and has a long way to go. thought crime 18 hrs ago #145
My God! Un-fucking-believable. He's threatening to use KPN Yesterday #74
New mission for the next Artemis flight. thought crime 18 hrs ago #147
Works for me. Give him a spacesuit, a bag of squeezable "food in a tube" KPN 17 hrs ago #152
Go to hell, shitbag.😡 Dave Bowman Yesterday #77
He caused bdamomma Yesterday #78
Call me logical, but wouldn't bragging how you are going to target bridges & power plants cause Iranians to arm those... Crowman2009 Yesterday #86
They can't hit a B-2 bomber cruising at 50,000 feet, headed to glass Tehran. LudwigPastorius 19 hrs ago #137
You know at some point he will declare blue states that don't agree with him enemies and also kimbutgar 23 hrs ago #89
He needs to cease wasting oxygen. That is the only thing that will niyad 22 hrs ago #106
Don the Con will do the TACO thing. What a deranged a-hole he is. n/t iluvtennis 23 hrs ago #90
Taco Tuesday. thought crime 18 hrs ago #148
Good one ☝️ n/t iluvtennis 17 hrs ago #150
Setting aside the morality of wiping out "a whole civilization" Wednesdays 23 hrs ago #93
I am afraid that is what he is talking about. mwmisses4289 22 hrs ago #110
Trump wants to be the greatest at everything -- including THE WORLD'S GREATEST TERRORIST Martin Eden 23 hrs ago #97
Is there anyone in the military or Congress or his effing administration brave LoisB 23 hrs ago #99
I agree with everyone else here--he's talking nukes Bayard 23 hrs ago #100
I don't know how it works but does F45 have the codes or does he order the person with the codes to lauch in2herbs 22 hrs ago #113
"He will be the most hated man in history." LudwigPastorius 19 hrs ago #138
Stop calling him deranged or delusional!!!! The word is PSYCHOPATH! Grins 23 hrs ago #101
The only "agreement" Trump and Netanyahu will make will be Iran's disarmament and eventual destruction. /nt artemisia1 23 hrs ago #102
Trump threats cause dilemma for US officers: disobey orders or commit war crimes BlueWavePsych 23 hrs ago #103
This is all just theatrics for him. Like an episode cliffhanger. intrepidity 23 hrs ago #104
Hopefully, you're right. Another Taco Tuesday? thought crime 21 hrs ago #127
Do you want to play a game? BidenRocks 22 hrs ago #105
T. S. Eliot Poem, The Hollow Men: A Psychotic Excerpt Read By D.J. Trump 2na fisherman 22 hrs ago #108
And in his mind, he'll get the Nobel Peace Prize for 'saving' the Iranian people. Talitha 22 hrs ago #112
This man is what the term.... Hope22 22 hrs ago #114
If ever there was a time to enact AdamGG 21 hrs ago #116
And I thought John Lithgow enigmania 21 hrs ago #124
Iran promises regional war in response to Trump threat: 'Restraint has come to an end' LetMyPeopleVote 20 hrs ago #129
I thought the Straight was open to all shipping except for US and Israeli. ChicagoTeamster 20 hrs ago #130
Given that his behavior has exceeded every rational limit in the past, snot 20 hrs ago #131
Sadly, this moron is going to, via his actions and acts, going to cost us Americans a lot. SWBTATTReg 19 hrs ago #139
Trump really is blue-wave 19 hrs ago #142
Let's not forget Netanyahu's role in this tragedy. BarbD 13 hrs ago #162
Don't assume it will be Iran. He could end the US civilization or the human civilization IronLionZion 18 hrs ago #144
Think carefully about your next move, Donald Blue Owl 18 hrs ago #149
Maniacal Evolve Dammit 17 hrs ago #151
Two possibilities: PCB66 17 hrs ago #153
So which civilization was Trump on about? Aussie105 16 hrs ago #155
J. Robert Oppenheimer After 1st Atomic Bomb Test 1945 2na fisherman 16 hrs ago #156
Well not tonight, but, maybe in two weeks. T-A-C-O tuesday republianmushroom 16 hrs ago #157
Giving In? stillspkg 16 hrs ago #158
Oh well, Trump succeeded at being the center of attention...again.... LeftInTX 16 hrs ago #159
I think there will be another TACO moment.... Sancho 16 hrs ago #160

Justice matters.

(9,827 posts)
119. As of this time, 1:30PM ET, the markets are all in the red...
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:32 PM
21 hrs ago

Orange war criminal's inside traders are all actively buying stocks "low" ...

TACO TUESDAY TIME...

yellow dahlia

(6,010 posts)
133. There are people who can, but they are not doing so.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:53 PM
20 hrs ago

Why isn't Congress back in session?

Why isn't someone who isn't as insane as him, trying to talk to him? Instead he has religious nutjobs egging him on.

YoshidaYui

(45,445 posts)
3. Donald Trump has been itching to use
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 08:34 AM
Yesterday

A nuclear bomb asking at one point why they haven’t been used since World War Two so maybe he wants to use it and is eager to see the results of that destruction.

MadameButterfly

(4,070 posts)
7. Yeah, that would get the Straights of Hormuz open
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 08:41 AM
Yesterday

in about 10,000 years.

But I doubt Trump has thought that through. He has to play with his toys and have his temper tantrum first.

mwmisses4289

(4,254 posts)
18. Not only is he jonesing to use a nuke,
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 08:54 AM
Yesterday

but more and more I've come to believe that in his head he is still living in the america of his childhood, where the u.s. was the only country that had a nuke; and he doesn't want anyone else to have one.

Javaman

(65,796 posts)
21. I've been saying this for a while
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:07 AM
Yesterday

as he slips further into this mania and can't find a way out of the epstein files, he will try to do something so fucking horrible, something so completely insane to distract the entire world.

since he was elected and started his halfwitted revenge tour, I have thought, "he's going to burn it all down"

and there is only one way to truly do that.

a nuke.

KPN

(17,395 posts)
76. Psychologists have been saying similarly as well. I think
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:53 AM
Yesterday

you are 200 percent right. He needs offed before we all end up offed.

Diraven

(1,915 posts)
80. His a malignant narcissist
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:06 AM
Yesterday

He gets off on causing misery and watching the results of his cruelty.

Botany

(77,421 posts)
4. Trump, God Bless the Great People of Iran.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 08:35 AM
Yesterday

And now watch me kill them by the millions as their homes, schools, towns, farms, and cities
are turned to blood, death, fire, and explosions because I can’t talk about the Epstein files.

He really is blood thirsty psychopath.

bdamomma

(69,553 posts)
82. Where is his
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:10 AM
Yesterday

fucking family to talk him down. Stephen Miller agrees with his madness?????

Wednesdays

(22,681 posts)
95. Stephen Miller agrees with this madness, nothing
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:37 AM
23 hrs ago

Stephen Miller AUTHORED this madness!

Seinan Sensei

(1,564 posts)
94. THIS!!!
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:36 AM
23 hrs ago

1) “I’m dying, and I want everyone else to die with me, if I can’t continue living”
2) Anything to distract from the Epstein Files

sop

(18,725 posts)
5. That's pretty specific, promising a whole civilization will die tonight. What will Trump say tomorrow?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 08:36 AM
Yesterday

johnnyfins

(3,814 posts)
39. He will say that he spared them because a
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:46 AM
Yesterday

"Deal" was made. Oh great and merciful god that he is.

If it goes the other way...mushroom clouds.

Irish_Dem

(81,513 posts)
6. He would destroy everyone and everything on the planet.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 08:37 AM
Yesterday

And not blink or think twice about it.

Attilatheblond

(8,948 posts)
45. Gotta feel sorry for those Artemis II astronauts
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:50 AM
Yesterday

They might not have a planet to come back to, just a smoldering morgue.

hamsterjill

(17,605 posts)
121. Honestly, I thought about that last night
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:49 PM
21 hrs ago

Wasn't there a movie? Good grief...it's almost unbelievable that we are this far gone.

Attilatheblond

(8,948 posts)
122. Two or three movies, I think
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:53 PM
21 hrs ago

Used to watch/read SciFi to escape from reality a bit. Doesn't work for me anymore.

hamsterjill

(17,605 posts)
125. Yeah, nothing seems to work for me any more.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:55 PM
21 hrs ago

I find that I start a movie or show, and I can't seem to concentrate on it long enough to get to the end.

We are all incredibly stressed and upset because of one asshole, and all of the other assholes who either put him in office or have kept his orange ass in office.

I will never forgive them.

Attilatheblond

(8,948 posts)
126. Can't hike anymore but being outside with birds, bugs, trees used to help a lot
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:00 PM
21 hrs ago

That's not working either now. Just makes me sadder to know how much beauty and life is as risk.

hamsterjill

(17,605 posts)
128. I understand.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:34 PM
20 hrs ago

I run a cat sanctuary for older, rescued cats. I don't take in new ones any more, but the many that I have are here to live out their lives. I bought this property a few years back for that purpose and built a sanctuary for them with inside space that is heated and cooled, and outside space amongst big oak trees. Unlike so many people, I am actually living out my life's dream, and I am very grateful for that. I am forced to stay busy taking care of them, and that in turn, keeps me grounded and active.

But all of the stress and angst and ugliness from Trump has made my dream and my retirement (and everyone else's that I know) much less than it could be. I am so angry for the loss of that security and happiness for myself and everyone else.

Plus, as an animal advocate, the destruction that this asshole is causing isn't JUST limited to human beings, and that saddens and disgusts me.

Someone needs to stop him.

OhioBack2Blue

(121 posts)
132. Very cool about your cat santuary! Also....
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:48 PM
20 hrs ago

....anytime Republicons are in office, they cause massive upheaval and instability, such that the animals of America, and often across the world, suffer much greater than when Dems are in office.

hamsterjill

(17,605 posts)
141. Absolutely.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:10 PM
19 hrs ago

Wildlife suffers horribly, including the wild horses who are killed and/or rounded up for profit. Republicans are assholes.

Farmer-Rick

(12,700 posts)
9. Pedo Trump
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 08:45 AM
Yesterday

Is a totally crazy unhinged demented old man. He's out of control and has lost any kind of rational thought. And MAGA and Bibi are backing this?

Farmer-Rick

(12,700 posts)
120. I don't know.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:42 PM
21 hrs ago

Is there anything pedo Trump does that's not approved by Putin?

Putin seems to be helping the Chinese and Cuba. But he abandoned Venezuela and let pedo Trump take 80 million barrels of Venezuela's oil, sell it, and pocket the money.

I think Putin and Iran are allies but just economic with no military defense agreement.

Cheezoholic

(3,748 posts)
11. This is a horrid Catch 22. If he does it, thousands die. If Iran capitulates, it bolsters his insanity
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 08:50 AM
Yesterday

and this fascist regime we are becoming. It's fucking scary.

Trueblue Texan

(4,498 posts)
66. Iran won't give in. But they will have some surprises for the US.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:20 AM
Yesterday

TSF has created generations of terrorists with his lunatic leadership.

hamsterjill

(17,605 posts)
123. I am honestly surprised that we haven't witnessed something yet from Iran.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:53 PM
21 hrs ago

I expected suicide bombers in the middle of New York by now or something equally as horrific. The fact that we haven't seen anything does not give me any comfort. I think it just means that Iran is preparing for bigger and better actions.

As a Christian, may God help us. And I don't mean the God that Donald Trump thinks wants this war to begin the end times.

yardwork

(69,384 posts)
72. Most likely Trump will claim that Iran gave in.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:44 AM
Yesterday

It will be a lie, one that allows Trump to continue his delusional thinking. His followers will cheer and the billionaire-owned media will praise Trump's negotiations.

At least I hope that's what will happen. It's not a good outcome but better than most alternatives.

spinbaby

(15,397 posts)
12. Did he write this?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 08:51 AM
Yesterday

Punctuation and spelling are correct. Only a few random capitalizations and those make some kind of sense.

Bluetus

(2,881 posts)
15. What deal? Trump never identified even a single one of the "15 points"
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 08:53 AM
Yesterday

My guess is that 13 of the 15 points involve lots of money going into Trump's pockets. What do you want to bet that one of his demands is that the oil be placed under the control of that phony "peace council" or whatever he calls it.

31st Street Bridge

(223 posts)
19. The horror of this is truly beyond belief
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 08:56 AM
Yesterday

This cabal of bloodthirsty murderers must be overthrown.

MadameButterfly

(4,070 posts)
20. Isn't the statement itself a war crime?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:02 AM
Yesterday

Why do we have to wait until he does it to stop him? He needs to be charged by the Hague. To never travel freely outside the US again. Crazy that there appears to be nothing we can do here.

I wonder if the military forced to carry out his orders will be in therapy for the rest of their lives for being the vehicle of this useless slaughter and all the repercussions that follow.

Qutzupalotl

(15,830 posts)
83. If we survive this term, we need to join the ICC.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:10 AM
Yesterday

We will have plenty of war criminals to offer up, and I won't shed a tear for them.

bdamomma

(69,553 posts)
96. or just
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:38 AM
23 hrs ago

the bullying he offers up when he is backed in corner. I'm hoping for an health emergency incident for that POS.

Javaman

(65,796 posts)
25. so rather than stop him before he commits war crimes and maybe drops a nuke...
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:12 AM
Yesterday

the repukes sit on their hands, chewing their lip, thinking, "what do we do?"

they will condemn him (maybe) after the fact, but before, fuck no! he's their god emperor!

we are all in an insane train heading for a gorge with the bridge out.

Wounded Bear

(64,368 posts)
51. I'm reminded of the Oracle of Delphi...
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:55 AM
Yesterday

Who when asked by a king from Ionia is he should go to war. The Oracle said, "If you go to war, a great kingdom will fall."

So the king took his country to war, and sure enough his kingdom was destroyed.

Lot of lessons in the ancient lore.

dedl67

(228 posts)
140. Right. Persian civilization has lasted 3 millenia, against much greater threats than this loudmouth piece of shit..
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:58 PM
19 hrs ago

Lovie777

(23,057 posts)
28. shithole gonna kill and destroy mother earth?......................
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:19 AM
Yesterday

because he can't have the oil.

electron_blue

(3,621 posts)
29. so has anyone called their congresspeople today?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:26 AM
Yesterday

What should congress do if he threatens nuclear war if they try to stop him? I think this is something he's been threatening for a long time.

Is anyone marching?
anything else?

bdamomma

(69,553 posts)
88. I would
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:22 AM
23 hrs ago

call my Senators and Reps, to leave my comments. We have a lunatic criminal in the WH.

Seinan Sensei

(1,564 posts)
92. I call every day
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:30 AM
23 hrs ago

Easiest thing ever.
“SIRI call Sen. ___”

Keep it simple and straightforward.
Keep it to a single-topic per call.

Call your Sen and Rep every day!

Attilatheblond

(8,948 posts)
111. Living in AZ 6, we don't know if our congressman is still alive or if he skipped town. Where's Juan?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:00 PM
22 hrs ago

Our Senators, on the other hand, have been leading the charge to remind the US Military that they do not follow illegal orders.

Tanuki

(16,453 posts)
31. He never learned about Croesus and the Oracle of Delphi
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:32 AM
Yesterday
https://theconversation.com/an-ancient-oracle-warned-invading-persia-would-backfire-from-croesus-to-trump-rulers-have-failed-to-listen-279750

"Invasions of ancient Persia were always daunting tasks. They often led to disaster.
....
Reputedly the richest man in the world, Croesus consulted the famed Oracle of Apollo at Delphi (in Greece). The oracle, according to ancient writer Herodotus, told Croesus:

that if he should send an army against the Persians he would destroy a great empire.

Croesus’ subsequent invasion and defeat by the Persian king, Cyrus, saw the destruction of his own empire. The oracle accurately foretold the outcome but not as Croesus had hoped.".... (more)

Joinfortmill

(21,234 posts)
32. We need the Vice President to invoke the 25th Amendment
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:32 AM
Yesterday

This CAN be done if Vance and Congress would just do it.

Otherwise some pissed off person is gonna finish the job dementia started.

FakeNoose

(41,743 posts)
34. Vance is going to Hungary, he's not going to be any help to us
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:41 AM
Yesterday

Meanwhile the asshole in the White House wants to start World War III.

alfredo

(60,306 posts)
146. Our status in the world has been severely damage by that Orange Julius.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:08 PM
18 hrs ago

Will we ever recover from the damage inflicted on this nation?

Ford_Prefect

(8,624 posts)
37. And where is the GOP leadership? Hiding behind bluster, innuendo, and preveracation!
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:46 AM
Yesterday

While everyone else demands they act to end Trump's catastrophe they are paralyzed by AIPAC, their own patrons, and a missing spine.

They burned down the Constitution and now don't have anything left to guide them.


lostincalifornia

(5,377 posts)
41. Those who ridiculed Hillary in 2016, and either voted for trump, or DIDN'T vote, and did the same thing in 2024 against
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:48 AM
Yesterday

Biden and VP Harris, will be culpable bear responsibility that occur because of this disaster, perhaps even more so, because after January 6, 2020, there should have been NO AMBIGUITY just how unhinged trump was.

tulipsandroses

(8,254 posts)
42. For all those that claim women are " too emotional" to be president. What say you now?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:49 AM
Yesterday

To be clear, this is more than just being too emotional.
He is angry that things have not gone his way. He acts like a toddler that can't get his way. Kicks, yells, and throws a tantrum.
His tantrums can get people killed.

Beacool

(30,520 posts)
43. The Persian civilization is thousands of years old.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:49 AM
Yesterday

Trump is a deranged old man. He needs to be stopped before he and the U.S. commit war crimes.

Wiz Imp

(10,080 posts)
59. He's already committed war crimes.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:05 AM
Yesterday

Though he's threatening exponentially worse war crimes now.

Hope22

(4,775 posts)
115. Yes!
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:13 PM
22 hrs ago

And I wonder if they have dug the White Phosphorus out……so much devastation!

Auggie

(33,179 posts)
50. Wonder if t**** will order the MOAB ...
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:53 AM
Yesterday

The GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast, MOAB, AKA "The Mother of All Bombs."

It's not a nuke. But it has a blast radius of a mile.

CaptainTruth

(8,211 posts)
52. Why do I feel like he's talking about America?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 09:56 AM
Yesterday

"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to ​be brought back ​again."

Seems like what he's trying to do to our country.

Blumancru

(271 posts)
57. Susan Collins, that living mummy, should send him a strongly worded letter
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:02 AM
Yesterday

That ought to do it.

infullview

(1,130 posts)
163. Let me tell you Susan Collins is taking credit for all
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 08:03 AM
3 hrs ago

of Joe Biden’s good works. She runs commercials taking credit for the low cost of diabetes drugs, and claims she saved Medicare and low cost insurance for Mainers. Total BS. She has flooded social media with this propaganda.

AverageOldGuy

(3,915 posts)
60. Nothing will stop him
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:10 AM
Yesterday

I doubt he will use nuclear weapons.

Although I served 28 years in the Army and worked with a lot of very senior generals and admirals and have a lot of faith in their integrity, I don’t see a single senior officer standing up and shouting “Stop! Enough!” The only way the military leadership will revolt is if Trump tells them to use nukes.

Anything else they will salute and destroy Iran.

Trump thinks a few anti-regime Iranians will step up, hold a Constitutional Convention, and bluebirds of happiness will appear all over Iran. After all, it worked out so well in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Take Iran’s oil? Same way The Dick Cheney and Halliburton took over Iraq’s oil?

Open the Strait? The goddam Strait was wide open before you bombed Iran for no reason.

IN FACT this war was started by Netanyahu and Sheik Bone Saw in Saudi Arabia who told Trump to destroy Iran while Sheik Bone Saw dumped another $4 billion into Jared’s “investment fund.” Trump’s orders are coming from Israel and Saudi Arabia.

fujiyamasan

(1,765 posts)
63. I hope the morons in "Tehrangeles" are happy
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:15 AM
Yesterday

They were all decked in MAGA gear doing his stupid dance a few weeks ago. I guess now they can go back to Iran and be kings of the ashes.

I also notice the usual suspects war supporters aren’t to be found on this thread. I’d like to see those trolls justifying this insanity.

Everything Trump touches…

Trueblue Texan

(4,498 posts)
64. Removal from office will stop him.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:17 AM
Yesterday

He has publicly announced he intends to commit genocide. No one will be able to protect him from the consequences of that. Only our leaders with sense will be able to protect the rest of the world from those consequences.

niyad

(132,649 posts)
70. Today? Leaders with sense? Nothing with an "r" after its name, and he
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:34 AM
Yesterday

absolutely will not listen to Dems.

Trueblue Texan

(4,498 posts)
73. Even just a sense of self-preservation should suffice...
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:47 AM
Yesterday

But it seems hopeless at this time. Still, I refuse to be hopeless.

bucolic_frolic

(55,273 posts)
67. Did he specify which civilization? Asking because if anyone has noticed
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:21 AM
Yesterday

he hates democracy. Dictators, strong men, authoritarian rule are his idols.

somethingshiny

(75 posts)
69. Waiting for a certain poster
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:32 AM
Yesterday

to fiendishly assure us that trump can't do this because it's illegal.

demmiblue

(39,758 posts)
71. Marjorie Taylor Greene: 25TH AMENDMENT!!! Not a single bomb has dropped on America.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:41 AM
Yesterday

When you have Madge calling for the 25th Amendment….

Hoodlum 🇺🇸 (@nothoodlum.bsky.social) 2026-04-07T13:52:13.290Z

fujiyamasan

(1,765 posts)
118. Really weird timeline when MTG and TC are voices of reason
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:30 PM
21 hrs ago

She’s absolutely right in this tweet.

LudwigPastorius

(14,771 posts)
136. Fuck off, Marjo.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:22 PM
19 hrs ago

You were a Trump defender. You didn't vote to adopt the articles of impeachment after he incited an insurrection.

YOU are why he is in the position he is in.

KPN

(17,395 posts)
74. My God! Un-fucking-believable. He's threatening to use
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:49 AM
Yesterday

nuclear weapons! He needs gone right now … from Earth!

thought crime

(1,608 posts)
147. New mission for the next Artemis flight.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:08 PM
18 hrs ago

Drop off Donald Trump. On the far side please.

KPN

(17,395 posts)
152. Works for me. Give him a spacesuit, a bag of squeezable "food in a tube"
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:18 PM
17 hrs ago

and drop him off … with a few telescopic cameras orbiting directly overhead for Earth’s viewing pleasure.

bdamomma

(69,553 posts)
78. He caused
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:03 AM
Yesterday

an Insurrection, what do you guys think an Unhinged sick unstable POS will do to save himself????? Will he chicken out??? We better have cooler heads or will the unspeakable happen???

WE NEED TO GET HIM OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crowman2009

(3,532 posts)
86. Call me logical, but wouldn't bragging how you are going to target bridges & power plants cause Iranians to arm those...
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:14 AM
Yesterday

...locations to the teeth with air defense weaponry? Sort of like Hanoi in a way.

kimbutgar

(27,283 posts)
89. You know at some point he will declare blue states that don't agree with him enemies and also
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:22 AM
23 hrs ago

Say they should be bombed. He needs to be 25th amendments and stopped. As we get closer to the election at the rate of his insanity things will get so much more worst for blue states!

Wednesdays

(22,681 posts)
93. Setting aside the morality of wiping out "a whole civilization"
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:31 AM
23 hrs ago

No military, not even the German Nazis, wiped out an entire civilization, let alone in a single night.

Unless we're talking strategic thermonuclear weapons.

Martin Eden

(15,657 posts)
97. Trump wants to be the greatest at everything -- including THE WORLD'S GREATEST TERRORIST
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:42 AM
23 hrs ago

Weak entities commit acts of terror furtively, hiding and sneaking until ready to strike.

Mighty nation states can rain mass death & destruction down from the sky, or with mechanized armies boots on the ground.

Both are terrorism, but which causes more death, destruction, pain, and unfathomable grief?

LoisB

(13,091 posts)
99. Is there anyone in the military or Congress or his effing administration brave
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:49 AM
23 hrs ago

enough to say no? Where are his doctors? He is obviously insane.

Bayard

(29,797 posts)
100. I agree with everyone else here--he's talking nukes
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:57 AM
23 hrs ago

You would think all of the Middle East leaders would be sitting on his desk. He is probably delusional enough to think the fallout would stop at Iran's borders. The winds will eventually share death around the world.

He will be the most hated man in history. There's no medals for that.

in2herbs

(4,424 posts)
113. I don't know how it works but does F45 have the codes or does he order the person with the codes to lauch
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:11 PM
22 hrs ago

a nuke?

I read an article the other day explaining that he was sedated when he ranted about getting the codes and his end of the world rant came after he woke from the sedation and the codes were out of his reach.

If he doesn't have the codes and it's in the control of the guy with the football that tells me the mililtary is in control. Which then begs the question how will the military exercise its control?

LudwigPastorius

(14,771 posts)
138. "He will be the most hated man in history."
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:39 PM
19 hrs ago

Not just him. All of us, too. (...and our children and grandchildren)

I doesn't matter if you & I didn't vote for him. If Trump succeeds in committing nuclear genocide, America and its people will be worldwide pariahs for generations.

Grins

(9,465 posts)
101. Stop calling him deranged or delusional!!!! The word is PSYCHOPATH!
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:00 PM
23 hrs ago
“A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will.” - Trump on Iran, sporting and erection that could cut glass, Truth Social. 07 April 2026.

Trump's entire raison d'etre is the suffering of others. It's what drives him. Arouses him. He's a psychopath. A narcissistic psychopath. A malignant-narcissist sadist. A sexual sadist who enjoys and is aroused by early teen girls being afraid of him.

Kill off an entire civilization? Meh! As he told Fox & Friends co-host Ainsley Earhardt who asked about kids shooting kids in schools, he replied with - "I couldn’t care less."*

And by this time, everyone knows it!! Or should. Anyone who continues to support him is, effectively, also a psychopath. And a traitor.

Stop calling him "deranged." He is way past that.

* 14 Sept 2025.

artemisia1

(1,881 posts)
102. The only "agreement" Trump and Netanyahu will make will be Iran's disarmament and eventual destruction. /nt
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:09 PM
23 hrs ago

BlueWavePsych

(3,357 posts)
103. Trump threats cause dilemma for US officers: disobey orders or commit war crimes
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:21 PM
23 hrs ago
Legal experts say attacking Iran’s infrastructure would constitute a war crime – but would military officers be held responsible?

There is little debate among legal experts that such an attack on the life-supporting infrastructure for 93 million Iranians would constitute a war crime.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2026/apr/06/trump-threats-dilemma-for-officers-disobey-orders-or-commit-war-crimes

intrepidity

(8,586 posts)
104. This is all just theatrics for him. Like an episode cliffhanger.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:21 PM
23 hrs ago

He just wants EVERYONE talking about it, and later tonight we'll hear how "they" made some sort of deal, and even though nothing will change (Strait still closed) he'll simply say he won. And if anyone questions it, he'll disparage that reporter and just tell more lies.

It's what he has been doing forever!

Or maybe he'll say he got a message directly from God?

thought crime

(1,608 posts)
127. Hopefully, you're right. Another Taco Tuesday?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:12 PM
21 hrs ago

He's so over the top, it's hard to take seriously. People around him should stop it.

2na fisherman

(333 posts)
108. T. S. Eliot Poem, The Hollow Men: A Psychotic Excerpt Read By D.J. Trump
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:42 PM
22 hrs ago

"...This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a BING, BING,BONG, BONG, BING, BING, BING."


Human civilization seems to be dying more each day because people like Trump exist in it.

Talitha

(8,026 posts)
112. And in his mind, he'll get the Nobel Peace Prize for 'saving' the Iranian people.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:05 PM
22 hrs ago

Despite the fact that he's slaughtering them left and right.

BTW, what ever happened to that little 'Peace Club' he started?

AdamGG

(1,886 posts)
116. If ever there was a time to enact
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:23 PM
21 hrs ago

the 25th Amendment, this would be it. All of the criteria for removing an unstable President are fully fulfilled.

It seems that Dump will have to do something tonight because it would be too humiliating for him not to. I pray that it is not nukes, but bombing plants that provide civilians with water and electricity, like he has alluded to, is still very bad. Mass starvation will not change the regime; they don't care about the condition of their people as long as they retain power. And, having war crimes and horror imposed on them helps gain them sympathy in the world community.

The best response would be if the media stopped covering all of his threats. They can't, but his number one driver is all the attention it focuses on him.

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,173 posts)
129. Iran promises regional war in response to Trump threat: 'Restraint has come to an end'
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:39 PM
20 hrs ago

Iran still has a large percentage of its drones and missiles and can inflict a great deal of damage on our Gulf allies.

Iran promises regional war in response to Trump threat: 'Restraint has come to an end' #RawStory

#TuckFrump (@realtuckfrumper.bsky.social) 2026-04-07T13:36:19.000Z

https://www.rawstory.com/iran-war-2676674050/

Iran responded to President Donald Trump’s looming threat Tuesday with a threat of their own: to lift all “self-restraint” by launching a large-scale attack on energy infrastructure across the Persian Gulf and deprive the United States “of the region’s oil and gas for years.”

“Our self-restraint has come to an end,” reads a statement from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), Iran’s military apparatus, as reported by the Kurdish news outlet Kurdistan 24.

“America’s partners in the region must know that until today, we have restrained ourselves for the sake of good neighborliness… however, we are now lifting the immunity provided by our previous tolerance. Our focus will be solely on the targets and on seeking revenge.”

Trump has repeatedly demanded that Iran lift restrictions for U.S.-aligned vessels to pass through the Strait of Hormuz, a critical shipping channel through which a fifth of the world’s oil trade flows. Amid ongoing U.S.-Israeli attacks, Iran has refused, and in mid-March, Trump gave Iran 48 hours to re-open the Strait of Hormuz or face the destruction of its power plants.

Iran has published a list of targets to hit if trump carries out his threat



snot

(11,836 posts)
131. Given that his behavior has exceeded every rational limit in the past,
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:46 PM
20 hrs ago

I see no reason why we shouldn't all be panicking.

I've called every congresscritter who represents me and a few that don't, and I hope you all are doing the same.

But our representatives have shown a remarkable ability to ignore our wishes in the past; so I believe the best remaining option is a General Strike & boycott.

The only thing TPTB care about is what's on their balance sheets.

SWBTATTReg

(26,271 posts)
139. Sadly, this moron is going to, via his actions and acts, going to cost us Americans a lot.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 03:50 PM
19 hrs ago

blue-wave

(5,215 posts)
142. Trump really is
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:13 PM
19 hrs ago

pootin's puppet. He's threatening nuclear war just as pootin did. Trump has to be getting his orders directly from the kremlin.

Blue Owl

(59,169 posts)
149. Think carefully about your next move, Donald
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:21 PM
18 hrs ago

I know that's a big ask -- but you really must, you know....

PCB66

(122 posts)
153. Two possibilities:
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:20 PM
17 hrs ago

1. Trump gives in a little bit but not the entire two weeks the Iranians requested.

2. All Hell breaks lose

I suspect it will be #2.

We will see in a couple of hours.

Lets hope Peace prevails.

Edited:

Looks like I was wrong. Trump agreed to the two weeks with the opening of the Straight of Whoremoose a few minutes ago.

Not the first time I called it wrong in my life.

Aussie105

(7,953 posts)
155. So which civilization was Trump on about?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:43 PM
16 hrs ago

The 250 year old one, the USA, or the one 10 and more times older, Persia?

If Trump actually issues the order to use nukes, it will do two things:

Trigger a revolt in the military so the order never gets executed.
Enola Gay version 2.0 will never take off from the ground.

Trigger the 25th amendment of the Constitution.

Trump's closest advisors know this, but will he listen?



2na fisherman

(333 posts)
156. J. Robert Oppenheimer After 1st Atomic Bomb Test 1945
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:52 PM
16 hrs ago

"We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, “Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.” I suppose we all thought that one way or another."

republianmushroom

(22,350 posts)
157. Well not tonight, but, maybe in two weeks. T-A-C-O tuesday
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:54 PM
16 hrs ago

Trump suspends Iran attack for two weeks, subject to Hormuz Strait opening
Source: CNBC

Published Tue, Apr 7 2026 6:38 PM EDT Updated 1 Min Ago

President Donald Trump on Tuesday said he agreed to suspend planned attacks on Iranian infrastructure for two weeks.

Trump wrote on Truth Social he made the decision “based on conversations with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Field Marshal Asim Munir, of Pakistan.”

This is breaking news. Please refresh for updates..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143645921

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/07/trump-iran-ceasefire-hormuz-strait.html

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