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BlueWavePsych

(3,326 posts)
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 11:18 AM 8 hrs ago

US considering occupying Kharg Island to force Iran to open Hormuz strait, say reports

Source: Guardian

The US is reportedly considering plans to occupy or blockade Iran’s Kharg Island to pressure Tehran to reopen the strait of Hormuz, despite earlier suggestions by Donald Trump that he was not leaning towards putting “boots on the ground”.

...

The report emerged as Iran’s military threatened it would “hunt down” officials and military commanders from the United States and Israel wherever it could find them in the world.

“We are watching your cowardly officials and commanders, pilots and wicked soldiers,” the armed forces spokesperson Abolfazl Shekarchi said, quoted by state TV. “From now on, based on the information we have on you, the promenades, resorts and tourist and entertainment centres in the world will not be safe.”

Any attempt physically to occupy Kharg Island would probably entail high risks, exposing American forces there to Iranian drone and rocket fire in a geographically confined space.


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/20/us-considering-occupying-iran-kharg-island-hormuz-strait-trump





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US considering occupying Kharg Island to force Iran to open Hormuz strait, say reports (Original Post) BlueWavePsych 8 hrs ago OP
This seems like a really stupid idea. Ocelot II 8 hrs ago #1
It is a really stupid idea sarisataka 6 hrs ago #13
What could possibly go wrong? tanyev 8 hrs ago #2
Answer: Everything! flashman13 8 hrs ago #3
So the braintrust is assuming Iran won't fire on it because the oil/storage? underpants 7 hrs ago #4
Depends how stupid Iran is EX500rider 7 hrs ago #5
Wouldn't Iran lose those facilities anyway? EYESORE 9001 7 hrs ago #8
Big difference between temporarily occupied and destroyed EX500rider 6 hrs ago #11
Define 'temporary' EYESORE 9001 6 hrs ago #14
For them, it might as well be destroyed if it is occupied any real length of time SamuelTheThird 5 hrs ago #18
Well the facilities require oil to be pumped from the wells to there.. EX500rider 3 hrs ago #22
The Dutch destroyed their refineries rather than have them used by Japan in WWII. PufPuf23 2 hrs ago #39
If the facility is occupied .... reACTIONary 6 hrs ago #12
No one else can use it with out Iran continuing to pump oil there from the well heads. EX500rider 3 hrs ago #23
Iran is prepared to take everyone in the Gulf Miguelito Loveless 5 hrs ago #17
This could lead to worldwide nuclear war SamuelTheThird 5 hrs ago #19
This is the path Miguelito Loveless 5 hrs ago #20
"Iran is prepared to take everyone in the Gulf.." Even more reason they can't be trusted with nukes IMO EX500rider 3 hrs ago #24
They don't have any nukes Miguelito Loveless 3 hrs ago #27
So they ruined their economy with sanctions & have thousands of centrifuges under a mountain.. EX500rider 3 hrs ago #30
Something Israel claims Miguelito Loveless 2 hrs ago #36
They don't have nukes & working on getting them are 2 different things. EX500rider 3 hrs ago #31
Again, the claim is they have been working on them for 47 years Miguelito Loveless 2 hrs ago #34
And again why do they have centrifuges under a mountain enriching uranium to nuclear bomb percentages? EX500rider 2 hrs ago #35
Again, proof other than Israeli Miguelito Loveless 2 hrs ago #37
That's the UN saying that not Trump or Israel EX500rider 2 hrs ago #38
Iran cannot win the war by strength and may end up a larger version of Gaza and a failed state. PufPuf23 1 hr ago #40
"Israel cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons." The facts would indicate otherwise IMO EX500rider 16 min ago #41
Because Iran "holds all of the good cards" Trump can't just declare victory and walk out. flashman13 7 hrs ago #6
Do trump and Kegbreath ever consult any actual military experts? Bayard 7 hrs ago #7
Trump wants a blood sacrifice. Baitball Blogger 7 hrs ago #9
they should have considered it before now. maxsolomon 6 hrs ago #10
Why won't Iran want to damage the petro Farmer-Rick 3 hrs ago #26
because they are self-interested. maxsolomon 3 hrs ago #29
The Iranian army has the whole fucking island zeroed for motherfucking artillery missions. SoFlaBro 6 hrs ago #15
Be out of range for most their artillery @ 25 miles+ unless they line it up exposed on the beach EX500rider 3 hrs ago #25
Why would they stop attacking the rest of the ME? Red Mountain 2 hrs ago #32
Well the issue for them is that's where 90% of the oil leaves from EX500rider 2 hrs ago #33
Let's see: Miguelito Loveless 5 hrs ago #16
Its way west of the strait IbogaProject 4 hrs ago #21
Been obvious for a while now OC375 3 hrs ago #28

underpants

(196,296 posts)
4. So the braintrust is assuming Iran won't fire on it because the oil/storage?
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 11:34 AM
7 hrs ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharg_Island

I doubt the Clustertrump is worried at all about the archeological areas there.

This sounds like fish in a barrel for missiles and drones.

EX500rider

(12,546 posts)
5. Depends how stupid Iran is
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 11:34 AM
7 hrs ago

If the US did occupy it them firing at it would destroy their own facilities of which 90% of the oil is exported, basically cutting their own economic throat

EYESORE 9001

(29,687 posts)
8. Wouldn't Iran lose those facilities anyway?
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 11:50 AM
7 hrs ago

Whether occupied by a bellicose force or whether the facilities are destroyed outright, Iran is still denied these essential facilities. The Iranian regime sees this as an existential crisis, while the orange menace seems oblivious. I believe Iran would blow up their own facilities rather than allow their enemy to use them for their own interests.

EYESORE 9001

(29,687 posts)
14. Define 'temporary'
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:30 PM
6 hrs ago

If their facilities are being used to subvert the Iranian regime, then I could see them destroying it instead. I don’t pretend to understand, but it’s a real possibility IMO.

SamuelTheThird

(1,070 posts)
18. For them, it might as well be destroyed if it is occupied any real length of time
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:41 PM
5 hrs ago

It's not a question of how 'stupid' Iran's governing body or bodies are...They haven't gone full-out on what they can do, ie serious targeting of all desalinization plants causing n unprecedented catastrophe. So they still have some survival calculations going on. But if they feel they are facing extinction, they will go to the most extreme measures.

EX500rider

(12,546 posts)
22. Well the facilities require oil to be pumped from the wells to there..
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 03:37 PM
3 hrs ago

.....so Iran still controls that.
The question is if they want to cut their own throat economically.
And if the answer is yes than I trust them with nukes even less.

PufPuf23

(9,812 posts)
39. The Dutch destroyed their refineries rather than have them used by Japan in WWII.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:25 PM
2 hrs ago

Wars especially and economies in general need fuel.

reACTIONary

(7,145 posts)
12. If the facility is occupied ....
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:16 PM
6 hrs ago

.... Iran would no longer have any economic incentive to open the strait. If they can't use it, they won't let anyone use it.

EX500rider

(12,546 posts)
23. No one else can use it with out Iran continuing to pump oil there from the well heads.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 03:40 PM
3 hrs ago

Without that it quickly just becomes useless empty storage tanks.

Their issue is it's the only spot they have with deep enough water for large oil tankers.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,718 posts)
17. Iran is prepared to take everyone in the Gulf
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:39 PM
5 hrs ago

down with them. The Child Raping Regime is looking for an excuse to use a nuke.

Both will get their wish.

SamuelTheThird

(1,070 posts)
19. This could lead to worldwide nuclear war
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:43 PM
5 hrs ago

Israel or US nukes Iran. Putin nukes Ukraine. France nukes Russia...there you go.

EX500rider

(12,546 posts)
24. "Iran is prepared to take everyone in the Gulf.." Even more reason they can't be trusted with nukes IMO
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 03:41 PM
3 hrs ago

Miguelito Loveless

(5,718 posts)
27. They don't have any nukes
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 04:22 PM
3 hrs ago

They have been accused of being about to have them for 47 years, and yet they have never turned up. Iraq didn't have them either.

Are you telling me you believe the Child Rapist's claims?

EX500rider

(12,546 posts)
30. So they ruined their economy with sanctions & have thousands of centrifuges under a mountain..
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 04:29 PM
3 hrs ago

...enriching uranium to 60%+, way beyond what the 3 to 5% their nuclear power plant needs why exactly?

Eight years ago an Israeli Mossad operation got half a ton of top-secret Iranian nuclear weapons program documents out of Iran and back to Israel in less than 24 hours. The stolen documents showed that the nuclear program did exist and apparently was still underway disguised as many different scientific research projects.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,718 posts)
36. Something Israel claims
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:05 PM
2 hrs ago

And has claimed for 47 years. According to UN inspectors, Iran was complying with treaty requirements until Trump broke the agreement.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,718 posts)
34. Again, the claim is they have been working on them for 47 years
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:02 PM
2 hrs ago

Again, are you telling me you believe this dubious claim by Trump disputed by experts?

EX500rider

(12,546 posts)
35. And again why do they have centrifuges under a mountain enriching uranium to nuclear bomb percentages?
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:04 PM
2 hrs ago

Miguelito Loveless

(5,718 posts)
37. Again, proof other than Israeli
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:07 PM
2 hrs ago

claims.

I get it, you support Trump’s war. Why are you here?

EX500rider

(12,546 posts)
38. That's the UN saying that not Trump or Israel
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:13 PM
2 hrs ago

The IAEA reports Iran holds 440.9 kilograms of uranium enriched up to 60% purity—a short technical step from 90% weapons-grade, allowing for roughly ten nuclear weapons if fully enriched.

PufPuf23

(9,812 posts)
40. Iran cannot win the war by strength and may end up a larger version of Gaza and a failed state.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:36 PM
1 hr ago

What Iran is trying to do in bombing Arab countries that host US military is get the USA out of the Middle East.

Attacking Iran was a stupid act by the USA that looks to drag in other nations. Iran's biggest weapon is to hold the World economy hostage.

Israel cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons.

EX500rider

(12,546 posts)
41. "Israel cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons." The facts would indicate otherwise IMO
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 07:16 PM
16 min ago

Israel is widely believed to have acquired its first deliverable nuclear weapons around 1966–1967.
And yet since 1966, Israel has been involved in at least six major wars and several significant military conflicts, primarily against neighboring Arab states and armed groups. Major wars include the 1967 Six-Day War, 1973 Yom Kippur War, 1982 Lebanon War, 2006 Lebanon War, and ongoing engagements.

flashman13

(2,363 posts)
6. Because Iran "holds all of the good cards" Trump can't just declare victory and walk out.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 11:40 AM
7 hrs ago

The Iranians won't let him. They have stated their demands to open the Straits. In the real world you have to give something to get something.

So, if Trump can't can't control the situation, he will do the next best thing. He will blow up more of Iran's oil infrastructure. If enough Gulf infrastructure is destroyed in tit for tat exchanges, opening the Gulf becomes meaningless.

World wide depression here we come.

Bayard

(29,512 posts)
7. Do trump and Kegbreath ever consult any actual military experts?
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 11:47 AM
7 hrs ago

Any of their own generals? I know trump thinks he's smarter than any of those people with many years of combat experience, and doesn't need their advice. He doesn't see where this lack of input has already put him in his quagmire?

Baitball Blogger

(52,267 posts)
9. Trump wants a blood sacrifice.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 12:04 PM
7 hrs ago

Look, if he was part of a network that systematically abused, killed and disposed of little girls and boys, why would he value the lives of our servicemen and women?

Congress people are insane enablers for allowing this to get this far. Not just with the war, but with the pedophilia.

maxsolomon

(38,634 posts)
10. they should have considered it before now.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 12:44 PM
6 hrs ago

there was probably someone in the gubmint that considered it at one time, like during the Biden Admin. maybe those considerations still exist even if that employee got DOGEd off the payroll?

occupying the island is probably lower risk than most would think - Iran won't want to damage the petroleum or LNG facilities. any ships supporting an occupation would be targets though.

Farmer-Rick

(12,623 posts)
26. Why won't Iran want to damage the petro
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 04:20 PM
3 hrs ago

Or LNG facilities?

What do they have to lose? The pedo has already bombed the hell out of their mainland and the island on 13 March. With US troops willing to die to hold the island, Iran won't have access to those facilities or petro anyway. Seems like blowing up the island and killing more American troops would be revenge against the US.

maxsolomon

(38,634 posts)
29. because they are self-interested.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 04:26 PM
3 hrs ago

this regime needs oil income to sustain itself. if Kharg is destroyed, they have few other options to get oil to market.

the oil income is the reason the regime can be so repressive - they have endless money to pay the Basij and the IRG.

EX500rider

(12,546 posts)
25. Be out of range for most their artillery @ 25 miles+ unless they line it up exposed on the beach
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 03:51 PM
3 hrs ago

Be more of the same drones + IRBM's.
But with a 5 x 2 miles wide target zone the interception becomes easier then the current trying to cover the whole Middle East.

Red Mountain

(2,332 posts)
32. Why would they stop attacking the rest of the ME?
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 04:36 PM
2 hrs ago

If it's easier for us to defend wouldn't they just tie up our resources with occasional large scale drone attacks? Why would they allow us to turn their asymmetric attacks into symmetric ones that work better for us?

Answer: they won't.

We can take Kharg Island and those troops can sit there. I think it would suit the Iranians just fine.

EX500rider

(12,546 posts)
33. Well the issue for them is that's where 90% of the oil leaves from
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 04:47 PM
2 hrs ago

And currently they are still shipping oil, without it they will soon run out of money to pay all their thugs to keep the civilians in line.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,718 posts)
16. Let's see:
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:37 PM
5 hrs ago

He has told the enemy his plans 2-3 weeks in advance. Iran is now likely to write off the island as lost, then make the marines and every oil producer in the region pay for it dearly.

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