(we cover South Jersey's media market)

I saw a picture earlier today after that win where one of the players skated around carrying the little Gaudreau kid.

when they were killed by a drunk driver. It's no less a tragedy. Still, makes you wonder why riding bikes while drunk at night beside a busy highway was such a good idea.

Gaudreau brothers crash: Prosecutors say blood alcohol levels should be inadmissible at trial - 6abc Philadelphia https://share.google/hFhIFaWxN5hh3GITK

It was the night before their sister's wedding, so they were apparently doing what bros do before "the big day".

Katie Gaudreau Marries Devin Joyce in Emotional Ceremony 1 Year After Her Brothers Johnny and Matthew Were Killed on Eve of Her Wedding

when drunk. Make bad decisions , not just driving drunk. Are reckless. Taking an Uber might have been a better choice.

and at least didn't get behind the wheel of a car like the drunk driver that hit them - just rode their bikes.

Here are the FACTS -

and not the driver who witnesses said was "driving aggressively".

Got it.

This thing about a "busy road" makes it seem like it was a multi-lane highway going through a city.

This LITERALLY happened on what could be called a "country road" in the boonies of South Jersey LITERALLY adjacent to corn fields.

All I am doing is raising the question --for the purpose of educating people about the effects of alcohol --of whether the brothers alcohol level might have impaired their judgement regarding the risk they were taking by choosing to ride their bikes at night on a road where there was traffic (if there hadn't been traffic there wouldn't have been witnesses).

Car vs bike doesn't usually end up well for the bike rider. Were the brothers oblivious to the risk they were taking? Did they not understand it? Right now in The Lounge there's a DU'er who has posted about his bike accident: it was the driver's fault. There's also the story on the thread from another DU'ER of his bike accident which he says was his fault for being young and riding recklessly. They say that riding a bicycle is good for your health. LIARS! - Democratic Underground Forums https://share.google/W3hssQHaRkpoJ8mvn
Locally where I live there is a marvelous walking/biking trail. Not long ago a man on the trail was killed by a car that hit him while he was crossing a place where the trail intersects a road. A bike rider even on a trail is at risk just crossing a road. 'It can happen to any one of us': Gathering remembers cyclist killed in hit-and-run - 9th Street Journal https://share.google/9Ws8mFXtgMgDtw8Fx

All I'm doing is asking the question whether alcohol played a role in the decision they made to ride their bikes--while drunk themselves --at night on a road where there was traffic. They didn't have to be there. If an Uber wasn't an option, surely they could have called a friend or family member to come get them? But maybe being young males was their downfall. Maybe they couldn't acknowledge the limitations on their ability to control events. Maybe they thought there was no risk. We'll never know.

It was a tragic accident.

and there is a whole DU group that discusses the issues of addiction including alcohol.

I expect the brothers were going to be a part of that wedding and had probably been a part of rehearsals and whatnot that day and traditionally, the bride has some kind of get-together lunch/dinner or whatever for the wedding participants the day/night before.

Back decades ago when I as their age, I used to ride my Trek "commuter style" bike (with commuter treads) every weekend for several years from spring to fall, down along the River Drives here in Philly. Had my gear (helmet, biker top and pants, tach on the handlebar, all kinds of flashing lights on the front/back of the bike). I was doing different circuits each weekend along their walking/biking/jogging/blading paths and/or on the street on one or both drives, some weeks a 9.3 mile single circuit from the Falls Bridge, up and around the Art Museum, and down the other drive back to the Falls bridge, and other times I doubled up one of the sides for 17 miles and once did a double circuit and a half for almost 25 miles. One of the times I was out there, I got to meet then-Mayor Ed Rendell when he helped to open a new city Rec center right there behind the Art Museum and got some free hotdogs!

The city has tried to make strides to accommodate bike riders on both trails and on the streets, and as long as they follow "the rules of the road" (i.e., not blowing through stop signs or red lights and not forgetting to signal turns as I have seen far too many times), they ARE permitted on the road (and in many municipalities NOT allowed on sidewalks with pedestrians for the purpose of them going on the road).

And from what I understand, there is no ordinance in that town for DUI for bikers. You don't expect that kind of issue on a country road. But then you don't have to be on a bike to have the same thing happen walking along a country road with no sidewalk. Ask Stephen King.

.....what a win!!!

hey Kracken you need to offer Jack a contract!