I think we all know what's going on.

this administration is not truth-wordy.

Back to the drawing board.

Thanks. Stay warm.

so will see if that happens!

And good afternoon to you on this raw chilly day (although we needed the little bit of rain that we got here)!

but figured the October one would be toast (and would probably also reflect the aftermath of that "Fork in the Road" mess to boot).

OK, some background -- the monthly Employment Situation report that is published the first Friday of the following month (usually), consists of two parts:

1. The "Current Employment Statistics survey", (CES) also known as the Establishment Survey, is a survey of businesses. From this comes the headline nonfarm payroll jobs numbers. The screenshot in the OP (see below) says it will be published with the November 2025 data.

The November data is usually published the first Friday of December. The Revised news release dates says it will be December 16. So we will see the October establishment data in mid-December (along with the November data) -- whether the October numbers will be broken out, or just part of the November numbers -- who knows.

2. The Household Survey - It is a sample survey of about 60,000 eligible households -- it produces the headline unemployment rate and many other metrics like the labor force participation rate.

We will never see Household Survey numbers for October. This is not new news -- it has been reported for at least a week..

What's new news, at least to me, is that I thought an October jobs report would be published whenever, containing just the Establishment Survey. But now we learn it won't be a separate report, but part of the November report.

News summary - https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

Employment Situation Technical NoteNews summary - https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.tn.htm

Revised news release dates following the 2025 lapse in appropriations
https://www.bls.gov/bls/2025-lapse-revised-release-dates.htm

expecting to see before their December 10 rate-setting meeting

Bloomberg, 11/19/25 152 PM CST
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/traders-slash-bets-december-cut-190941316.html

So a pile of business media will ignore the jobs numbers and stock traders will probably run the markets up tomorrow.

affecting consumer goods like computers and cellphones and cars and medical devices))

Add water to the list of things AI is sucking up.

Yahoo Finance, 11/19/25

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-it-was-gpus-and-electricity-now-ai-is-eating-up-the-memory-industry-190921764.html

including running some "case-less" (just a motherboard, power supply/fans, CPU(s), RAM, disk and/or harddrive, video card) and some were even "headless" (without a video card and/or monitor and I would telnet in to manage it - I have a little Raspberry Pi guy like that right now running my weather station's internal data display web server). The Pi looks like this (put together from a kit) -



I was a member of a SETI@Home team so I had a good little SETI "farm" going, at one point running 10 "machines" (in a case or case-less) of different platforms (including a SparcStation, Alpha Workstation, and a dual-Xeon server, running multiple OSs (including Linux & NetBSD). Was even overclocking a couple of the CPUs (had the thermal paste and fans and stuff for that).

I know during that time, the RAM prices were always fluctuating, with those prices you are quoting approaching that for "X" number of MB of RAM vs GB of RAM ( "GB" was a fantasy ).

There was also a lot of fuss about "Moore's Law" then - where the-then CPU platforms were eventually expected to be "running out of room" for any more transistors... yet here we are today!

in order to compressed-air-dust the insides, but it has been necessary about 4 times since I got it in 2011 (I would have "thermal event" shutdowns.

Once I had to do serious (for me) stuff back in 2000 where I replaced a hard drive and added RAM. That went well (surprisingly).

Then about 3 years ago, for my cellphone, Consumer Cellular (CC) sent me a new SIM card, and I dutifully TRIED to install it, but the instructions were horrible. I didn't know what I was supposed to do with the little key device they sent with it.

Eventually, I found something on YouTube about that - that I was supposed to poke it in a little hole, and what it looked like and the surrounding part, I eventually found something that matched my phone. But I broke the "key" poking it in the hole. CC refused to send me another key, but in one phone conversation, they mentioned a straightened paper clip would do.

Tried that, but the straightened paper clip just bent.

Youtube instructions said not to push too hard.

Eventually I found YouTube instructions that said that some older cell phones are hard to eject the SIM card tray because the parts get old and stuck together, and just push hard if necessary. But well, I already tried that and my paperclip just bent instead.

Eventually I took a straightened paperclip and needle nose pliers, and held a few millimeters of the straightened paperclip wire in the grip of the pliers -- a few millimeters of paperclip wire won't bend except under super-force. Anyway that worked -- it ejected the SIM card tray, and the tiny SIM card flew out. Fortunately it landed on the table because I would not have found it in ages if it landed on the carpet.

I put the new SIM card in. Thought it was all OK, but I noticed that the battery was draining kinda rapidly - at the rate of 10% every 3.2 hours on average. I also didn't realize for a couple weeks that I wasn't getting any texts or phone calls (causing one embarrassing incident).

Turns out the new SIM card wasn't registered properly. I tried and failed to resolve that. The website instructions just went in circles - do this, do that, if that doesn't work, back to do this -- an earlier page. No success. So I replaced the new SIM card with the old one.

Eventually, CC threatened to impose a "legacy network surcharge" of $5/month if I didn't replace my SIM. That grew to $10/month. Then they said November 10 or somesuch was the final date and I would be disconnected and blah blah and eventually lose my phone number.

I held off because I was afraid the new SIM card would drain my battery like it did before (making my phone worthless for a day trip - even with an auxiliary battery pack because that takes time to recharge the phone), and once it was registered, I feared there was no going back to the old SIM card.

But because of the imminent disconnection, about 2 weeks ago I finally called (again) about the registration issue. This time I got a real friendly one who did all the work on their end and I didn't have to follow any crappy circular website instructions. Anyway, I'm fine now. The battery drain rate is even a little less than with the old SIM card (needs to be charged about every 3-4 days when not used much)

My original cell company was Sprint, which was all-digital (no SIM) from the get-go. I had that for almost 21 years before T-Mobile finally bought them up and transitioned to their stuff (and SIMs). And agree, trying to pop that little tray out to insert the almost-microscopic SIM was a bear. Fortunately a few years later, they went to "eSIMs", so no more tiny card.

Thank you !