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riversedge

(78,878 posts)
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 10:40 AM 13 hrs ago

A new virus variant and lagging vaccinations may mean the US is in for a severe flu season

Source: cnn


By Brenda Goodman Updated 39 min ago


New data shows that flu vaccination numbers are falling behind where they typically are at this point in the year. Lindsey Wasson/AP



The United States may be heading into its second severe flu season in a row, driven by a mutated strain called subclade K that’s behind early surges in the United Kingdom, Canada and Japan.

Last winter’s season was extreme, too. The US had its highest rates of flu hospitalizations in nearly 15 years. At least 280 children died of influenza, the highest number since pediatric death numbers were required to be shared in 2004.

Now, with a new variant in the mix, experts say we’re on track for a repeat. And with flu vaccinations down and holiday travel on the way, they worry that things may look much worse in the weeks ahead.

The good news: Early analysis shows that this season’s flu shots offer some protection against being hospitalized with this variant, especially for kids. The bad news is that many Americans appear to be skipping their flu vaccines this year. New data from prescription data company IQVIA shows that vaccinations are down compared to where they usually are at this point in the year......................


Flu activity is low but rising quickly in the United States, according to the latest FluView report from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Most of the flu viruses identified this season have been an A strain called H3N2, and half of those have come from subclade K, a variant that was responsible for a rougher-than-normal flu season this summer in the Southern Hemisphere.

That variant wasn’t a major player when scientists decided which strains should be in the annual flu shots, so the vaccines cover a related but slightly different group of viruses.

“It’s not like we’re expecting to get complete loss of protection for the vaccine, but perhaps we might expect a little bit of a drop-off if this is the virus that sort of dominates the season, and early indications are that’s probably going to be the case,” said Dr. Richard Webby, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center for studies on the ecology of influenza in animals and birds at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital. ..............................

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/18/health/new-flu-variant-subclade-k?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

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chouchou

(2,619 posts)
7. Absolutely. I had corvid 2-3 years ago. Rather a pain in the ass ..and I already had the shots.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 12:08 PM
11 hrs ago

7 weeks ago, I caught the/a flu that was the proverbial Mother F**** . Even my Doctor said "You'd be surprised...
..that some variants of the flu can put your ass under the table" (I have a cool Doctor)

Aristus

(71,314 posts)
2. Had an anti-vaxxer in the clinic the other day. Her chart's preventive care list noted she was due for the flu shot.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 10:53 AM
13 hrs ago

"I don't get the flu shot anymore. It gives me the flu".

I tried to tell her about the immune inflammatory response, which often hits within 24 hours after immunization, and that it's the immunization working the way it's supposed to, and not the flu itself.

She said she doesn't get the reaction in the days after the shot, but months later. But it happens every time she gets the flu shot. I knew there was no point in telling her the two are likely unrelated, especially if they take place months apart. But there's no convincing anti-vaxxers; they have already made up their sub-standard, miniscule minds before they even walk in the door.

I told her that once patients find out about my strong pro-vaccine stance, they stop coming around, and I hope she took the hint.

Ocelot II

(128,341 posts)
3. I've managed to avoid covid so far (maybe on account of the vax and nine or so boosters),
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 11:11 AM
12 hrs ago

but I've never been as sick in my life as I was when I got the H3N2 variant of the flu during the 1968 pandemic. I was young and healthy then but I thought I'd have to get better in order to die; it probably would have killed me if I'd been as old as I am now. Once flu shots became available every year I've never failed to get one and I'm kind of a fanatical pro-vaxxer.

ChicagoTeamster

(194 posts)
4. A lot of older MAGATs used to get the flu vaccine before COVID. Now they suddenly know about immune systems.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 11:14 AM
12 hrs ago

They just don't know that the vaccine works because of their immune system. If you care about your older MAGAT family members remind them they used to get the vaccine before COVID and explain how yes they have an immune system and it creates antibodies to the disease because of the vaccine so that they won't get sick enough to die or be hospitalized.

riversedge

(78,878 posts)
5. Flu vaccinations are down 8% compared to this time last season There have been about 26.5 million flu vaccines administ
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 11:33 AM
12 hrs ago

From the article:



Flu vaccinations are down 8% compared to this time last season

There have been about 26.5 million flu vaccines administered in retail pharmacies so far this season, nearly 2.3 million fewer than last year.

Total flu vaccines administered in retail pharmacies between August and October


.........

“I’m not surprised,” said Dr. Jennifer Nuzzo, who directs the Pandemic Center at Brown University’s School of Public Health. Vaccine skepticism expressed by leaders of the US Department of Health and Human Services has “injected chaos into the whole vaccination system,” she said.


riversedge

(78,878 posts)
6. I took my older aunt to get her flu shot a few weeks ago. At first she
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 11:45 AM
12 hrs ago

hesitated but I told her the flu virus this year is a pretty bad one and who knows--you might
end up in the hospital. I mentioned hospital and she asked me when I could drive her to get the flu shot!! This is the first year she will not be driving her car-- she gave it up last summer.

Anyway, she hates hospitals so away we went.

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