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BumRushDaShow

(163,415 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 02:46 PM 6 hrs ago

Trump says he's talking to Democrats about direct health care payment plan

Source: The Hill

11/17/25 8:38 AM ET


President Trump said he is talking with Democrats about a direct health care payment plan Sunday amid negotiations to tackle rising health insurance premiums. “I’ve had personal talks with some Democrats,” Trump told reporters in West Palm Beach, Fla., on Sunday before returning to Washington.

The president did not name the Democrats he said has been speaking to, but said he has talked to them “about paying large amounts of dollars back to the people.” The president has touted paying money from the insurance companies directly back to Americans, and letting them purchase their own health insurance.

Trump told reporters Sunday that everyone has “picked up” on the idea, including Democrats. “People love it,” the president said. The insurance companies are making a fortune,” he said. “Their stock is up over a thousand percent over a short period of time. They are taking in hundreds of billions of dollars, and they’re not really putting it back, certainly like they should.”

The president’s comments come as the Senate grapples with how to handle rising health insurance premiums now that the government shutdown has come to a close.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5608731-trump-democrats-direct-healthcare/



talked to them “about paying large amounts of dollars back to the people.”


That's what "subsidies" are. The only ones getting them are those who don't have an employer-provided insurance or other private insurance, and meet certain income-based criteria.

Why not also raise the minimum wage to be a living wage while you're at it.
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Trump says he's talking to Democrats about direct health care payment plan (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 6 hrs ago OP
This is all bullshit. Democrats would not like what he is proposing to do. OLDMDDEM 6 hrs ago #1
Talking AT Dems , not "to"... and definitely not "with". mpcamb 5 hrs ago #17
The subsidies Traildogbob 6 hrs ago #2
Like everything else with this fool, he has no idea how insurance actually works,... the nelm 1 hr ago #21
That's just health interests moving piles of cash from one pocket to another. What's to cut prices??? marble falls 6 hrs ago #3
Yeah, Donny, tell us another fairy tale. DinahMoeHum 6 hrs ago #4
WTF? The ACA is working, just fund the damn thing. Does he know the coverage comes from private companies? Vinca 6 hrs ago #5
The Hill of course gab13by13 6 hrs ago #6
Cantaloupe Caligula The Corpulent Said... GB_RN 6 hrs ago #7
Yeah, right...what? TWO WEEKS like his infrastucture plan? AZ8theist 6 hrs ago #8
Something else... GiqueCee 6 hrs ago #9
Every single thing popsdenver 6 hrs ago #10
What is the practical intent here? To allow people to buy higher deductible and presumably cheaper plans? LonePirate 6 hrs ago #11
OK - what about the pre-existing condition clause and the lifetime caps. Two very very important gains in the ACA Marie Marie 6 hrs ago #12
How can anybody be this stupid? Wiz Imp 5 hrs ago #13
This is his "selling" of insurance privatization nationwide as a new front for attacking Medicare, ancianita 5 hrs ago #14
If he eventually gets around to thinking single payer is his idea intrepidity 5 hrs ago #15
Let's not forget the rest of ACA Bluetus 5 hrs ago #16
And are these "Democrats" in the room with him now? VMA131Marine 5 hrs ago #18
UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE NOW Karma13612 4 hrs ago #19
Why can't we have what other countries have? twodogsbarking 1 hr ago #20
Oh...like the $2k checks to Americans from the tariffs..or that he bailed out the farmers...bull crap PortTack 43 min ago #22
A "direct health care payment plan" dflprincess 38 min ago #23

Traildogbob

(12,172 posts)
2. The subsidies
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 02:53 PM
6 hrs ago

Only Pay for premiums. What about high deductibles and balance AFTER premiums? He said he wanted to not give money to Greedy insurance. So where will the 100’s of thousands of dollars come from for surgeries and other costly procedures? Cash? What a “Moran”.

the nelm

(212 posts)
21. Like everything else with this fool, he has no idea how insurance actually works,...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:02 PM
1 hr ago

does he? Paying premiums does not equal the supposed pooling effect of paying for actual medical expenses.

marble falls

(69,400 posts)
3. That's just health interests moving piles of cash from one pocket to another. What's to cut prices???
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 02:53 PM
6 hrs ago

Vinca

(53,036 posts)
5. WTF? The ACA is working, just fund the damn thing. Does he know the coverage comes from private companies?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 02:58 PM
6 hrs ago

And that no one is forced at gunpoint to buy their insurance from it?

gab13by13

(30,688 posts)
6. The Hill of course
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:05 PM
6 hrs ago

Krasnov’s plan : healthy people will drop insurance and pay bills out of pocket leaving only sick people in Krasnov’s plan which will drive up premiums and make them unaffordable.

Krasnodar plan, don’t get sick, if you do , die quickly.

GB_RN

(3,468 posts)
7. Cantaloupe Caligula The Corpulent Said...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:06 PM
6 hrs ago

“I’ve had personal talks with some Democrats.”

The damned “journalists” are failing to do their goddamned jobs. They misunderstood/failed the assignment.

Were I one of those reporters, I’d have said, “What Democrats? House or Senate? Name them. Name them now, or we’ll say you’re lying because every time you started a tale with lines such as, “Some people,” “Many people,” “some say,” “A guy comes up to me and says, ‘Sir,’”, it’s been easily proven lie. EVERY time.”

AZ8theist

(6,982 posts)
8. Yeah, right...what? TWO WEEKS like his infrastucture plan?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:06 PM
6 hrs ago

Remember when he said "Who knew how hard health care is"???

Newsflash: The IMBECILE in the WH STILL has no clue how to fix anything other than his off shore bank accounts.

Does anybody believe for one second this moron is going to fix a system set up decades ago to enrich billionaire CEOs of health insurance companies? They'll get rid of him faster than he can shank a golf shot into the woods.

GiqueCee

(3,042 posts)
9. Something else...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:11 PM
6 hrs ago

... that Nipplehead is too dirt stupid to take into account is: What's the learning curve for people to learn how to manage and incorporate these direct payments into their budgets so they actually work when and where they're needed? Do these payments come with an instruction manual, or even a few helpful hints? Probably not.
Sweet Christ on a pogo stick, he is SO fucking clueless. What a waste of skin, and an insult to the color orange.

For the eleventy-seventh time, just give us the same gold-plated healthcare we already pay for, but aren't allowed to benefit from, which is what members of Congress get for working less than 6 months a year.

popsdenver

(1,039 posts)
10. Every single thing
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:17 PM
6 hrs ago

that comes out of Trump's or any Republican's mouth is one of three things.

1) Hypocrisy

2) A flagrant or blatant outright lie

3) 180 degrees from the truth, or reality.

WASF

LonePirate

(14,310 posts)
11. What is the practical intent here? To allow people to buy higher deductible and presumably cheaper plans?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:24 PM
6 hrs ago

How much higher does the deductible need to be before it results in a lower monthly premium?

Marie Marie

(10,733 posts)
12. OK - what about the pre-existing condition clause and the lifetime caps. Two very very important gains in the ACA
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:29 PM
6 hrs ago

which I'm sure they will not address. Plus - individual insurance costs waaaaaay more than group insurance. These guys are idiots and all the MAGA will hear is "money coming into MY pocket - I like it!!" Another scam - giving us money to put into a health savings account which does nothing for long term, catastrophic coverage. One way or another, they are determined to drop Obamacare - replace it with anything with Trump's name on it and it will SUCK - guaranteed.

Wiz Imp

(8,176 posts)
13. How can anybody be this stupid?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:33 PM
5 hrs ago

"The president has touted paying money from the insurance companies directly back to Americans, and letting them purchase their own health insurance."

So the President is going to pay back money from the insurance companies (how is he getting money from the insurance companies to pay directly to Americans?) who will then use it to purchase their own health insurance. From Where?.....those same insurance companies. How in the hell is that supposed to save anyone any money? I mean, a 5-year old could tell you why this makes absolutely no sense.

ancianita

(42,586 posts)
14. This is his "selling" of insurance privatization nationwide as a new front for attacking Medicare,
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:35 PM
5 hrs ago

as Medicare Advantage is currently trying to do. In the name of improving the economy (for insurers), he's providing cover for his plans to end Medicare and after that, Social Security.

It's the P2025 chipping away at corporate privatizing of the whole country.

intrepidity

(8,537 posts)
15. If he eventually gets around to thinking single payer is his idea
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:40 PM
5 hrs ago

He'd probably be onboard with it. All about ego with him.

Bluetus

(1,931 posts)
16. Let's not forget the rest of ACA
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:44 PM
5 hrs ago

There is no cash payment large enough to protect pre existing conditions, No lifetime caps. Children under 25 on parent's police. Etc.

There is no cash payment large enough to protect a person against the abuses of an unregulated insurance industry. Just one event could cost a person $500,000, and without ACA, they could be kicked off their policy long before the company paid out the $500,000.

Karma13612

(4,869 posts)
19. UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE NOW
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 05:06 PM
4 hrs ago

Anything else which involves “healthcare” insurance companies is just putting lipstick on a pig.

They are the problem. Get rid of them.
Make the US government fund a proper Medicare for All. If people can ever be made to sit still for 2 seconds and have it explained to them that a tiny tax on income while eliminating all copays and premiums and deductibles is the correct sane humane thing to do. It covers every person, cradle to grave, whether you are working or starting your own business or retired or unemployed or anything you can think of. People have to get over their ridiculous “I’m not payin’ for that strangers “fill in the blank” “ procedure. People in this country will donate money to strangers who start “Go Fund Me” accounts for medical needs, but they can’t stand the idea of just a very small tax on income.
And money from the government will go to the CARE GIVERS AND HOSPITALS AND CLINICS, where it should be all along.
Not the for-profit money hungry monstrous insurance companies. They are evil to their core.

No more denials, no more lifetime deductibles, etc. JUST CARE WHEN NEEDED.




So sick of this shite.

PortTack

(35,801 posts)
22. Oh...like the $2k checks to Americans from the tariffs..or that he bailed out the farmers...bull crap
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:49 PM
43 min ago

dflprincess

(29,086 posts)
23. A "direct health care payment plan"
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:54 PM
38 min ago

would not include insurance companies. Payments would be made to providers like a single payer plan would do.

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