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Bread and Circuses

(1,403 posts)
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:09 PM 21 hrs ago

In Reversal, Trump Says House Republicans Should Vote To Release Epstein Files

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said House Republicans should vote to release files involving the Jeffrey Epstein case, a startling reversal after previously fighting the proposal.

“We have nothing to hide, and it’s time to move on from this Democrat Hoax perpetrated by Radical Left Lunatics in order to deflect from the Great Success of the Republican Party,” Trump wrote on social media shortly after landing at Joint Base Andrews following a weekend in Florida.

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-republicans-should-release-epstein-files_n_691a8949e4b0023259f5d7f1



Something is cooking. And it’s trickery .
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In Reversal, Trump Says House Republicans Should Vote To Release Epstein Files (Original Post) Bread and Circuses 21 hrs ago OP
and this would be AFTER Bondi and Justice were ordered to open investigation stopdiggin 21 hrs ago #1
Independent Special Counsel Born Free 8 hrs ago #28
Guess they finished swapping out Clinton Aviation Pro 21 hrs ago #2
He's only saying that because he's been assured by Blondi that now there's a new investigation MarineCombatEngineer 21 hrs ago #3
Exactly. This is all a shell game. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #8
100 % Bread and Circuses 21 hrs ago #13
Except Epstein's estate has files Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 8 hrs ago #30
Then they should release them unredacted except for the victims names MarineCombatEngineer 8 hrs ago #32
what got planted? RockCreek 21 hrs ago #4
Another possibility in the mix...yes. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #10
That heavy casket with Ivana's cremated remains. She was about to testify wasn't she? travelingthrulife 10 hrs ago #22
That's what I am worried about. BlueKota 5 hrs ago #34
He can release them tonight. RandySF 21 hrs ago #5
That's right ! But he wants to see a vote to know the turncoats Bread and Circuses 21 hrs ago #14
Maybe this is dweller 21 hrs ago #6
It's time for leakers to do their thing FakeNoose 21 hrs ago #7
Yup. It would be the moral thing to do FBI and all the other orgs 'protecting' us travelingthrulife 10 hrs ago #23
Nothing to hide because it has already been hidden Native 21 hrs ago #9
Absolutely - everything is trickery. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #11
So... Trump evidence destroyed? Other evidence planted for distraction? RockRaven 21 hrs ago #12
...and the shredders at the DOJ are starting to smoke from working overtime. LudwigPastorius 21 hrs ago #15
How much of it is still intact? Diamond_Dog 21 hrs ago #16
All of Epstein's estate material Gordcanuck 9 hrs ago #25
Trump shredded the docs. SunSeeker 21 hrs ago #17
Maybe they think they've covered their tracks? Buddyzbuddy 20 hrs ago #18
I guess the "there are other Donald Trump's out there" bit didn't work. C Moon 17 hrs ago #19
Trying to get ahead of the curve Deminpenn 15 hrs ago #20
He says this as the investigation he ordered gets started and the papers can't be released because "squirrel". lark 10 hrs ago #21
Well, should get a veto proof majority now. THIS could get interesting. bluestarone 9 hrs ago #24
Ongoing Investigation... AfternoonJoe 9 hrs ago #26
Making a virtue of necessity Prairie Gates 9 hrs ago #27
Shame Trump Didn't Get His First Pick to Run This: Matt Gaetz DrFunkenstein 8 hrs ago #29
This means he has no intention of releasing the files JoseBalow 8 hrs ago #31
MaddowBlog-Facing defeat, Trump completes dramatic U-turn on Epstein Files Transparency Act LetMyPeopleVote 6 hrs ago #33
Fraud Waste Abuse purr-rat beauty 5 hrs ago #35

stopdiggin

(14,720 posts)
1. and this would be AFTER Bondi and Justice were ordered to open investigation
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:13 PM
21 hrs ago

into Democratic 'involvement' Yeah, sure, Donnie!
"ongoing investigation" ya know ...

Born Free

(1,649 posts)
28. Independent Special Counsel
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 11:06 AM
8 hrs ago

They need another discharge petition to appoint an independent special counsel to investigate the Epstein files and hold all involved accountable. The only way to get to the bottom of what is going on is to have a truly independent counsel.

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,898 posts)
3. He's only saying that because he's been assured by Blondi that now there's a new investigation
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:17 PM
21 hrs ago

the files won't be released, otherwise he'd be singing a whole different tune.

yellow dahlia

(4,027 posts)
8. Exactly. This is all a shell game.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:25 PM
21 hrs ago

First of all - he knows there are many Republicans on board, so he gets to pretend they are acting on his prompting.

Second - you're right. Then they get to say -ooops...sorry...we can't support it now because there is this other investigation which prevents us. (You know - the investigation we cooked up.)

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,898 posts)
32. Then they should release them unredacted except for the victims names
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 11:36 AM
8 hrs ago

and let the chips fall where they may.

BlueKota

(4,910 posts)
34. That's what I am worried about.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 02:21 PM
5 hrs ago

That, he's having DOJ alter records to frame Democrats while scrubbing away any mention of himself or his party.

And how would anybody prove, that's what they may have done?

FakeNoose

(39,508 posts)
7. It's time for leakers to do their thing
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:25 PM
21 hrs ago

As more people are investigating and handling these Epstein files, the greater likelihood of LEAKS galore.
I'm ready ... pour it on!



travelingthrulife

(3,831 posts)
23. Yup. It would be the moral thing to do FBI and all the other orgs 'protecting' us
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:33 AM
10 hrs ago

from this info. Release it all.

RockRaven

(18,415 posts)
12. So... Trump evidence destroyed? Other evidence planted for distraction?
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:29 PM
21 hrs ago

Or reassurance from Thune that the Senate GrOPers will kill it?

Gordcanuck

(143 posts)
25. All of Epstein's estate material
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:55 AM
9 hrs ago

which is unredacted and tampered with will surface. All was given to counsel for his victims. Only their discretion can shroud stuff unrelated to exposing Trumpy. Let the games begin…

Buddyzbuddy

(1,923 posts)
18. Maybe they think they've covered their tracks?
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 11:45 PM
20 hrs ago

Remember, it's the cover up. Bondi, Patel, Bianchi, Bongino, etc., etc. will all be questioned in about 14 months. I think that's within the statute of limitations? Ask whomever is left of Watergate.

As the Felon pardons Maxwell maybe she'll pass Bondi as she goes in through reception.

C Moon

(13,335 posts)
19. I guess the "there are other Donald Trump's out there" bit didn't work.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 01:58 AM
17 hrs ago

Either that, or they managed to add another Donald Trump into the files.

Deminpenn

(17,176 posts)
20. Trying to get ahead of the curve
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 04:07 AM
15 hrs ago

I'm sure he's been told that he is going to lose the House vote, probably by a significant, perhaps even veto proof, margin. He'll probably lose the vote in the Senate, too. No congressman or senator wants to go on record supporting Epstein. They can see the mid-term attack ads coming down the pike.

lark

(25,712 posts)
21. He says this as the investigation he ordered gets started and the papers can't be released because "squirrel".
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:28 AM
10 hrs ago

As always everything he says is a total lie. He knows Bondi will protect him because he has the goods on her.

bluestarone

(20,796 posts)
24. Well, should get a veto proof majority now. THIS could get interesting.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:55 AM
9 hrs ago

They KNOW if they don't vote yes, they could be in big trouble. (let's hope this backfires bigtime)

AfternoonJoe

(12 posts)
26. Ongoing Investigation...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:19 AM
9 hrs ago

This will be the excuse. Yes, congress voted to release them. Yes the president signed the bill. We can't release them now because they are now part of an ongoing investigation. That's why they opened up one and are assigning a prosecutor. To appear to be in favor of the release, but not release.

Prairie Gates

(6,836 posts)
27. Making a virtue of necessity
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:37 AM
9 hrs ago

What a bozo. The vote is to require his Administration to do it, which he could do with a Truth Social post to Bondi.

DrFunkenstein

(8,871 posts)
29. Shame Trump Didn't Get His First Pick to Run This: Matt Gaetz
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 11:14 AM
8 hrs ago

And can we just add that Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh, who was credibly accused of sexual assault despite Trump closing the investigation after a few days as dozens of witnesses waited to testify.

JoseBalow

(8,928 posts)
31. This means he has no intention of releasing the files
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 11:35 AM
8 hrs ago

He's like a toddler, completely transparent and predictable.

LetMyPeopleVote

(172,742 posts)
33. MaddowBlog-Facing defeat, Trump completes dramatic U-turn on Epstein Files Transparency Act
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 01:37 PM
6 hrs ago

The president has flip-flopped before, but his reversal on a resolution to force disclosure of the Epstein files was dramatic — and born of weakness.

Facing defeat, Trump completes dramatic U-turn on Epstein Files Transparency Act

The president has flip-flopped before, but his reversal on a resolution to force disclosure of the Epstein files was dramatic — and born of weakness. www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

News Wire - World 🌎 Independent News Network Pro-Democracy (@democracyblue.bsky.social) 2025-11-17T15:08:05.429Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/facing-defeat-trump-completes-dramatic-u-turn-epstein-files-transparen-rcna244338

On Sunday morning, Republican Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky, one of the lead sponsors of the resolution, appeared on ABC News’ “This Week” and predicted “a deluge” of GOP support for the bill. “There could be 100 or more,” the GOP congressman added.

Roughly 12 hours later, the president threw in the towel. In a rant published to his social media platform on Sunday night, Trump issued a statement that began:

House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files, because we have nothing to hide, and it’s time to move on from this Democrat Hoax perpetrated by Radical Left Lunatics in order to deflect from the Great Success of the Republican Party, including our recent Victory on the Democrat ‘Shutdown.’


....So what happens now? While the legislative process surrounding discharge petitions is complex and burdensome, House Speaker Mike Johnson, who largely controls developments on the floor, agreed last week to get this over with, scheduling a vote for Tuesday, Nov. 18. (The Louisiana Republican had the option of waiting for the discharge petition to fully ripen and punt the vote until after Thanksgiving. By all accounts, Johnson decided instead to rip off the bandage.)

If all goes according to plan, after the House vote on the resolution, the measure would head to the Senate, where its future is uncertain: It would need 60 votes to advance in a chamber where the Senate Democratic conference has 47 members.

If 13 or more Senate Republicans support the bill, it would eventually need the president’s signature. Watch this space.
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