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BumRushDaShow

(163,406 posts)
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 11:20 AM Yesterday

Dick Cheney, a longtime Democratic bogeyman, became an ally opposing Trump

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Source: USA Today

Nov. 16, 2025, 5:02 a.m. ET


WASHINGTON – Then-Rep. Adam Schiff didn’t recognize who was standing next to then-Rep. Liz Cheney as the two chatted on the House floor after a moment of silence on the first anniversary of the Capitol attack on Jan. 6, 2021.

Lawmakers were still wearing masks because of the COVID-19 pandemic. Schiff, a California Democrat, who investigated the Capitol riot with Cheney, a Wyoming Republican, said she eventually introduced the “older gentleman” standing nearby: her father, Dick Cheney.

“I turned and said, 'I'm sorry, Mr. Vice President, I didn't recognize you with the mask!’” Schiff, a former House member who is now in the Senate, told USA TODAY. “I thought he was another House member. I'm sure I shook his hand and told him that I appreciated his being there.”

The scene might have prompted a second or even third look from anyone who lived through President George W. Bush's administration: Democrats approached their longtime Republican adversary to offer their thanks and best wishes. “The human side of Dick, which was sometimes well hidden, was on display," Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Maryland, who was then the House majority leader, told USA TODAY.

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/11/16/dick-cheney-democrats-iraq-trump/87111142007/



As many other DUers have lamented - we are truly in some kind of bizarre "alternate timeline".
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Ocelot II

(128,320 posts)
1. The enemy of your enemy isn't necessarily your friend, but he can be a useful ally.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 11:25 AM
Yesterday

That said, I still don't like Dick Cheney.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,455 posts)
14. That's how I see it.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 02:33 PM
Yesterday

I still think the main reason for Cheney opposition to tRumpism is that it got in their way.

Liz Cheney did use her position on the J6 committee to provide some cover for other republicons, just not Krasnov.

twodogsbarking

(16,788 posts)
2. It's Boogey Man. Trump is the bogey man
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 11:43 AM
Yesterday

Solly Mack

(96,084 posts)
3. I simply can't overlook torturing people. Can't. And they got away with it - which doesn't speak well of my country.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 11:51 AM
Yesterday

Nothing he could have done in life would ever outweigh what he and Bush did in office and even before serving as VP, Cheney was eroding our democracy with his unitary executive promotion - it went back to Nixon with him. Chip, chip, chipping away.

Torturing people, extraordinary rendition, indefinite detentions - all things that eroded due process, which eroded our democracy.

Fuck, the Patriot Act for another example.

He'll never be anything other than a war criminal that was allowed to get away with his crimes to me.

Never.

jaymac

(123 posts)
12. Oh boy
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 01:08 PM
Yesterday

Heartfelt thank you for saying what I've been thinking since he died.

Solly Mack

(96,084 posts)
13. I feel the same way about all of them (Bush Regime).
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 01:13 PM
Yesterday

He died from complications due to pneumonia, which was exacerbated by his heart problems. So, his lungs filled up with fluid - not so different from the way people feel being waterboarded...like they're drowning.

Still, he got off easy.

You're welcome. It's just how I feel.

EarthFirst

(3,897 posts)
4. I really hope we do not become so quick to ally with re-branded Republicans...
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 12:04 PM
Yesterday

…the only effort they are making to turn any corners is out of self-preservation.

If the optics of running as a Republican has become a toxic liability; fix that shit within your own party.

I’m not willing to accept a watered-down Democratic Party platform because some career NeoCon/MAGA Republican theocrat decided it would focus group better that a reformed Republican run as a Democrat.

Fuck that shit!

The proverbial big tent has no room for bipartisan kinship with war criminals and Gestapo sympathizers.

That includes any moments of lucidity from MT-fucking-Green as well…

speak easy

(12,513 posts)
7. "the only effort they are making to turn any corners is out of self-preservation."
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 12:36 PM
Yesterday

I don't think you can say that about Liz Cheney. She gave up everything.

republianmushroom

(22,086 posts)
5. A leopard does change his spots,
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 12:22 PM
Yesterday

may camouflager them but does change them. Beware of said leopard.

Autumn

(48,652 posts)
6. Yeah yeah whatever. He will never be an ally to me.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 12:26 PM
Yesterday

PatSeg

(51,498 posts)
8. Yes, everyday is Opposite Day now
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 12:38 PM
Yesterday

Grins

(9,107 posts)
9. The words of John Henry Faulk...
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 12:39 PM
Yesterday

Faulk was a popular radio talk show host in the 1950’s. The Reich-wing Birchers and more hated him and got him blacklisted. He took them to court for defamation. His attorney was the great Louis Nizer.*

Faulk had never seen or met the people who attacked him. Before the trial began he did.

He saw his protagonist in the hall and went over to introduce himself and shake his hand.

His attorneys were all: “What the hell did you do that for????”

Faulk: “I just wanted the son-of-a-bitch to know I had more manners than him.”

Schiff has manners, too.

* Faulk won in court. $3.5 million. It was the largest judgement for libel in history!

(All from my memory so the exact words may not 100%, but close enough.)

twodogsbarking

(16,788 posts)
11. Thanks. Some people are annoyed when you are nice to them. A good strategy from a smart man.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 12:49 PM
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popsdenver

(1,039 posts)
10. these individuals that are
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 12:46 PM
Yesterday

somewhat changing their Opinions, need to recall they were the active ones, every day of every year backing these assholes into power for the better part of ten years. And none of them have come over to them joining the Dem party at this point....

Dick Cheney electing himself as VP, along with his bestest buddy Rummy, escorted in a ton of shit, commiting incredible numbers of outright Felonies, as well as countless acts of Treason......

GP6971

(37,205 posts)
15. Locking per Host Consensus. Not LBN, Feature Piece.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 02:52 PM
Yesterday

Please feel free to repost in GD or E&OA.

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