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Mysterian

(6,077 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 10:02 AM Nov 11

Republicans Already Backtracking on Their Promise as Mike Johnson Refuses to Guarantee a Vote on Obamacare

Source: Daily Boulder

House Speaker Mike Johnson is already backing away from a key Republican promise — holding a vote to extend Affordable Care Act subsidies that are set to expire soon. When pressed Monday, Johnson dodged the commitment entirely, saying instead the House would need “to find a consensus” before moving forward.

“We’re going to do in the House what we always do and that is a deliberative process. We’re going to have to find consensus on whatever, whatever the proposal is,” Johnson told CNN.

He went on to make it clear he wouldn’t guarantee anything, not even a timeline. “As you know, I do not guarantee the outcome of legislation or dates or deadlines or anything,” he added.

Read more: https://dailyboulder.com/republicans-already-backtracking-on-their-promise-as-mike-johnson-refuses-to-guarantee-a-vote-on-obamacare/



What a shocking surpise.
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Republicans Already Backtracking on Their Promise as Mike Johnson Refuses to Guarantee a Vote on Obamacare (Original Post) Mysterian Nov 11 OP
As Bernie predicted in the Senate floor underpants Nov 11 #1
The cavers either are too dumb to figure this out or really didn't care durablend Nov 11 #2
Why should they care? It does not affect them at all. LiberalArkie Nov 11 #19
Only dumbasses would expect GOPhers to act honorably. lastlib Nov 11 #27
No honor among Republicans no_hypocrisy Nov 11 #3
Or the eight Democrats chernabogg Nov 11 #14
Nothing has shocked me as much as some_of_us_are_sane Nov 11 #34
does Fetterman hear from his voters about this Skittles Nov 11 #37
Honestly, Skittles, I don't think he cares ... some_of_us_are_sane Nov 11 #44
I hear you Skittles Nov 11 #45
Maybe Tim Kaine can send Moses Mike a strongly worded letter Bengus81 Nov 11 #4
That or wag a finger or drop a purse durablend Nov 11 #31
A weapon Rebl2 Nov 11 #5
Of course Turbineguy Nov 11 #6
Mike "Grindr" Johnson is a no good little shit. Botany Nov 11 #7
100 X more fake Christian than most other fake Christian Repulicants Bengus81 Nov 11 #9
Lawrence O'Donnell will be along tonight lapfog_1 Nov 11 #8
Wow! Label me surprised !!!! (Not). True scum --Johnson and the other wingnuts. But paint them with ACA inflation. dutch777 Nov 11 #10
It won't be inflation, it will be the loss of health care for 20M that Dems should pound on. Bengus81 Nov 11 #12
I'm shocked I tells ya, just shocked. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 11 #11
Is this our future? Americans can't afford to pay their skyrocketing insurance premiums, insurance companies in2herbs Nov 11 #13
Duh.....................that took less than 24 hours.. but the twit can file lawsuits to over turn elections no problem turbinetree Nov 11 #15
Predictable Mr.Bee Nov 11 #16
They are already rubbing the Dem's nose in it. republianmushroom Nov 11 #17
Even Third Way thought this was shit. durablend Nov 11 #32
Someday, maybe, dems will learn, republianmushroom Nov 11 #43
The Senate "deal" never promised a House vote, something that was no secret progree Nov 11 #18
Plus, IIRC, the Senate "promise" was made by one Repug member Wednesdays Nov 11 #20
Thune is Senate Majority Leader progree Nov 11 #24
Didn't realize it was Thune Wednesdays Nov 11 #25
No problem :) /nt progree Nov 11 #29
How could it ? MichMan Nov 11 #39
Sunday Night Sellout orangecrush Nov 11 #21
I Could Have Sworn Lucy Was Going To Let Charlie Brown Kick The Football This Time DrFunkenstein Nov 11 #22
Let's see . . . moreland01 Nov 11 #23
Merely for those who might be interested... 2naSalit Nov 11 #28
THAt would be awesome, BUT bluestarone Nov 11 #42
The Senate deal includes two Democratic funding bills that have been stuck in committee in the Senate for months. lapucelle Nov 11 #30
Thanks, lapucelle some_of_us_are_sane Nov 11 #33
Well... 2naSalit Nov 11 #26
Well who didn't see that coming? Anyone? Anyone? Ray Bruns Nov 11 #35
A Most Fitting Day - Armistice Day - for our Corporate Owned Senate 'Leadership' to have Surrendered our Democracy SorellaLaBefana Nov 11 #36
Even if some Senator(s) made such a promise... WestMichRad Nov 11 #38
LOLOLOL Javaman Nov 11 #40
Lucy (the GOP) snatches the football away iemanja Nov 11 #41

lastlib

(27,162 posts)
27. Only dumbasses would expect GOPhers to act honorably.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:41 PM
Nov 11

Repuglikans have genetically erased the honor gene. It ain't in 'em any more. The last one died off in 1968.

some_of_us_are_sane

(2,583 posts)
34. Nothing has shocked me as much as
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:51 PM
Nov 11

the stomach-turning TURNCOAT that Fetternan has become. I am Pittsburger and I voted for that TOWERING DISAPPOINTMENT. (There is no word for the grief I feel because of that decision)

I've despised him since he made the pilgrimage to Mar-a-lago (first senate member EVER) after Trump's reelection.)

I am not surprised by voting with the other seven.

HE IS NOT THE MAN HE WAS.

some_of_us_are_sane

(2,583 posts)
44. Honestly, Skittles, I don't think he cares ...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 07:20 PM
Nov 11

I think he's 'sleepwalking' his term in the Senate. His look is 'vacant'. I don't see that 'fire in the belly' anymore...no ideals to guide him in the same way he performed as the mayor of Braddock, Pa. That stroke did more than affect his speech, it's stolen his spirit.

Fetterman may as well be on a 'sight-seeing' tour of DC ...he's like a tourist in casual clothes, showing up when he wants to.... giving interviews to Fox because they want to showcase him now.

He looks...........lost.

And man o man.....................Trump can SMELL an easy target like Fetterman from Trump's lifetime of grifting.

Skittles

(168,687 posts)
45. I hear you
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 07:51 PM
Nov 11

I was initially quite impressed with him but it would appear the stroke altered his personality.

Bengus81

(9,590 posts)
4. Maybe Tim Kaine can send Moses Mike a strongly worded letter
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 10:09 AM
Nov 11

Or...any of the other Gang of Eight

Rebl2

(17,228 posts)
5. A weapon
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 10:11 AM
Nov 11

To use against them in future elections next year. Some democratic politicians give in to easily.

lapfog_1

(31,433 posts)
8. Lawrence O'Donnell will be along tonight
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 10:14 AM
Nov 11

to explain just how HARD it is to get the House to do anything... that you have to be in the cloak room where only the select few can go ( and remind everyone that, as a former Senate Staffer he.... oh never mind )... and how this is another great sign that the Democrats ( well, just 8 that are a) independents or b) not up for election in 2026 ) won a great victory... so great that 40 other Democrats didn't even vote for this victory.

( as if the emoji was really needed )

dutch777

(4,773 posts)
10. Wow! Label me surprised !!!! (Not). True scum --Johnson and the other wingnuts. But paint them with ACA inflation.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 10:25 AM
Nov 11

Clearly, be it insurance, beef, rent or other costs, Trump and the GOP acted like they could contain them and now they want to ignore the inflation. Hang that albatross around their necks and bind them to it for the 2026 midterms.

Bengus81

(9,590 posts)
12. It won't be inflation, it will be the loss of health care for 20M that Dems should pound on.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 10:37 AM
Nov 11

Very,very few could afford "only" a doubling of those premiums. Most I believe will go up 3-5 times into the $800-$1000 range per month.

in2herbs

(4,069 posts)
13. Is this our future? Americans can't afford to pay their skyrocketing insurance premiums, insurance companies
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 10:40 AM
Nov 11

will go bankrupt as a result. With all of that money removed from our financial system the markets will crash.. What will investors create to fill that gap in the financial system? I am confident that whatever it is will not benefit middle class America.


turbinetree

(26,772 posts)
15. Duh.....................that took less than 24 hours.. but the twit can file lawsuits to over turn elections no problem
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 10:42 AM
Nov 11

with that.............and that maga worthless party has voted 70 times to kill affordable healthcare, while they get taxpayer funded healthcare..........and then to top off further insult................... his state mind you, ranks 50 out 50 in healthcare..........and good old number 1 in poverty and the highest in senior hunger in the country............you know this "guy" has the mentality of let them eat cake............he doesn't give a shit............end of story..............JFC........

Mr.Bee

(1,468 posts)
16. Predictable
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 10:46 AM
Nov 11
Why even bother watching this drama when you knew it was going to happen!!
Republicants always lie,
Republicants always change the rules
Democrats always cave.
Republicants always get their way!
(going on 50 years now)

republianmushroom

(22,102 posts)
43. Someday, maybe, dems will learn,
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 05:48 PM
Nov 11

reaching across the aisle is get you slap hard.

Thank you DINO's.

progree

(12,561 posts)
18. The Senate "deal" never promised a House vote, something that was no secret
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 11:51 AM
Nov 11
Senate reaches deal on ending the shutdown, Politico, 11/9/25
https://democraticunderground.com/10143562517

As part of Democrats’ agreement to end the shutdown, Thune is promising Senate Democrats a vote in mid-December to extend Affordable Care Act subsidies that are due to expire at the end of the year without Congressional action. Democrats will also get to determine what extension bill receives that vote.
. . .
House Democratic leadership has insisted the health subsidies be addressed in legislation rather than a handshake compromise, especially as Johnson has refused to offer Democrats the same promise of a vote on an extension in his chamber.


I've read many articles on the "deal" and none promised anything other than a Senate vote. Or implied such. But it's possible that I missed one that did.

Wednesdays

(21,358 posts)
20. Plus, IIRC, the Senate "promise" was made by one Repug member
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 11:59 AM
Nov 11

...and not a promise made by the Majority Leader...or anyone in leadership for that matter.

progree

(12,561 posts)
24. Thune is Senate Majority Leader
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:15 PM
Nov 11
As part of Democrats’ agreement to end the shutdown, Thune is promising Senate Democrats a vote in mid-December to extend Affordable Care Act subsidies

DrFunkenstein

(8,871 posts)
22. I Could Have Sworn Lucy Was Going To Let Charlie Brown Kick The Football This Time
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:11 PM
Nov 11

Shocker.

Remind me again who is supposed to keep Dem Senators from defecting on key votes?

moreland01

(854 posts)
23. Let's see . . .
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:15 PM
Nov 11

a vote on releasing the Epstein Files vs extending the healthcare subsidies. Hmmm. I'm guessing the repubes would make that trade.

2naSalit

(98,987 posts)
28. Merely for those who might be interested...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:41 PM
Nov 11

I heard that at least 100 House repubs are ready to vote to release the Epstein files.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220795329

bluestarone

(20,821 posts)
42. THAt would be awesome, BUT
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 05:45 PM
Nov 11

Moses will do everything to stop that. Gonna be exciting for sure. I want these teenage RAPISTS to pay dearly.

lapucelle

(20,882 posts)
30. The Senate deal includes two Democratic funding bills that have been stuck in committee in the Senate for months.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:52 PM
Nov 11

The Senate passed those bills last night.

Johnson has no choice but to pass those bills in the House this week.

And a humiliated Donald Trump will have no choice other than to sign those two Democratic appropriations bills into law, rather than the clean CR that he fought so hard for.

One of the bills secures VA funding until the end of the fiscal year (September 30, 2026)

The other bill not only secures the funding of SNAP until the end of the fiscal year, but actually increases the funding.

=========================

Most people seem unaware of exactly what is in the Senate package. It's so disappointing that Republican and anti-Democratic Party talking points dominate so many liberal spaces.





some_of_us_are_sane

(2,583 posts)
33. Thanks, lapucelle
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:28 PM
Nov 11

I was unaware of this "small silver living". (I'll have to save my bridge jump for later, when Trump and his minions find ways to renege, as they always seem to.)

2naSalit

(98,987 posts)
26. Well...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:37 PM
Nov 11

They have to reconvene to vote on the Senate Bill so there should also be a vote for a new Speaker.

MTG do your thing, gerl.

SorellaLaBefana

(454 posts)
36. A Most Fitting Day - Armistice Day - for our Corporate Owned Senate 'Leadership' to have Surrendered our Democracy
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:36 PM
Nov 11

Armistice Day (some will recall) is that day, since the armistice it referred to Ended the 'War to End All Wars' on the 11th Hour, of the 11th Day of the 11th Month in 1918, has been celebrated on that anniversary (often with 2 minutes of reflection at 11:00)

Since that war did not, in fact, do the trick (hence it is now called World War I) Armistice Day was, in the USA renamed first as 'All Veteran's Day'—later shortened to 'Veteran's Day'

My heartfelt wishes to all veterans, their families and to the basically uncounted civilians killed in that, and all subsequent wars.

Sadly, the end result is that we have the finest congress that money can buy. It will be a long road back.


These flags were at half-staff in honor of the death of former President Carter before tRump had them raised for his Coronation

WestMichRad

(2,800 posts)
38. Even if some Senator(s) made such a promise...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 04:11 PM
Nov 11

No one in the Senate has any authority over business conducted in the House. They can ask, plead, beg… but there’s just no way the Senate can compel the House to take up any issue.
Period.

Javaman

(64,931 posts)
40. LOLOLOL
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 05:01 PM
Nov 11

Who the fuck is surprised by this?

Those of us who are not infected with Potomac fever saw this coming a mile away.

I have to laugh in this ongoing kabuki theater of fucking right wing dystopia

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